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Next of kin

Biggarmac

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At meets many of the attendees are single campers. If one of them takes ill how can we, the organisers, contact your next of kin?
This also applies if something happens to a couple - for instance CO exposure.
Do you have the details anywhere it can be easily accessed?
In my van there is a card behind the wardrobe door giving my next of kin and medication.
Any other ideas?
 

LANDS43

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Great idea. Perhaps suggest that everyone does similar.
 

TeamRienza

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There is also the ICE protocol (In Case of Emergency) which is widely known and promoted whereby you make an entry in your phone contacts under the ICE heading giving the number and name of a 3rd party to contact in an emergency. Useful, although with many devices being locked until a pin or fingerprint is used it has limitations.
I should have thought that any organised event would require attendees to have registered and supplied this information to the stewards.

Davy
 

Pudsey Bear

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Most modern mobile phones have an ICE (In Case of Emergency) option, or you can just save next of kin under ICE, the emergency services are aware of this feature and would look if need be.
 

Lee

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My thoughts on this is it would be useful to have.
Names ( as often we know first name but not full name)
Age (I know this is controversial but the ambulance need to know this)
Next of kin.
Medication
This is what I think but someone may have more suggestions.
Just one more thing, if you're on your own and have a medical condition such as epilepsy or similar, where you may collapse.
It would be useful to let the rally organiser know.
 

wildebus

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Most modern mobile phones have an ICE (In Case of Emergency) option, or you can just save next of kin under ICE, the emergency services are aware of this feature and would look if need be.
They do? where? (it is not something I have seen on any).

This is a very good point and think I will add a couple of names and numbers easily accessible on a piece of old-fashioned paper (storing on technology is not the best format neccessarily).

Interestingly, we just bought the Sage SOS Alert system a few days ago for this kind of situation for OHs father now he is living on his own, so at least he will be easily able to make an call to a monitoring centre with a push of a button who will call the emergency services or registered contacts if they can't speak to him (maybe a fall in garden or somesuch?)
 

wildebus

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My thoughts on this is it would be useful to have.
Names ( as often we know first name but not full name)
Age (I know this is controversial but the ambulance need to know this)
Next of kin.
Medication
This is what I think but someone may have more suggestions.
Just one more thing, if you're on your own and have a medical condition such as epilepsy or similar, where you may collapse.
It would be useful to let the rally organiser know.
You have touched on it on the last point, but a clear indication of any known allergies - both food and medication (for example, my partner is allergic to penicillin) - would make sence to note.
And Blood Type as well!
 

LANDS43

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If you do not have the ICE facility on your phone you can always put in in the phone book under ICE and then the person ie Son, Daughter after it.
IE. ICE SON ICE DAUGHTER
But, having it on a phone assumes that it is not locked. If its a locked phone you could take ages guessing the password or number.
 

Biggarmac

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ICE numbers in most phones are not accessable because of passwords. One suggestion is that the information could be on a note behind the passenger sunvisor. This is simpler to get at in an emergency than behind the wardrobe door.
 

trevskoda

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ICE numbers in most phones are not accessable because of passwords. One suggestion is that the information could be on a note behind the passenger sunvisor. This is simpler to get at in an emergency than behind the wardrobe door.
No one would know it was there,should be some where easy to spot.
Folk should wear a id disc,with blood g,alergies, name and contact no.
 
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wildebus

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ICE numbers in most phones are not accessable because of passwords. One suggestion is that the information could be on a note behind the passenger sunvisor. This is simpler to get at in an emergency than behind the wardrobe door.
I like that location. makes good sense. I have a couple of storage nets above my visors. I might print off some very obvious and colourful "ICE" information sheets and laminate them and put them there (y)
 

Biggarmac

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No one would know it was there,should be some where easy to spot.
Folk should wear a id disc,with blood g,alergies, name and contact no.
If people are generally in good health they are unlikely to wear a disc.
Putting the info on the sunvisor could be augmented by putting a notice such as "ICE HERE" at the top of the windscreen with an arrow pointing to the visor?
 

nabsim

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This information is available to iPhone users and has been for some time. With phone locked you can still call emergency services or accede medical id which shows medication, next of kin, emergency numbers etc.

i can see no reason why organisers should have access to this information, you would have all sorts of data protection stuff to comply with.
 

Allen

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Just updated the info on my phone.
As already said accessible when locked
At the bottom of the screen..click emergency ...then medical ID
Mine shows medical information plus medication I'm taking and next of kin.
Also other options available..such as do want to be an organ donor., your blood group, etc.
 

RV2MAX

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I wear a bracelet for penicillin NONE ! If you have a locked phone then a card with ICE and a phone number or two in wallet or purse does the trick . emerg services will look for id on person , they wont be doing a search of vehicle .
 

wildebus

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Had a search .,.. interesting info here - https://firstaidtrainingcooperative.co.uk/setting-emergency-contacts-on-android/

looks like iPhone users can do an ICE setting, but only OLDER (but not newer) Android phones can do this.

This seems a good way to not overthink the issue ....

The Simplest Solution?
As a easy solution which will work on almost any device, set your lockscreen wallpaper to a picture with your ICE number in one of the corners.

(y)
 

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