Americans are weird

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I was just watching a video and the man was cutting wood and he said the piece he was cutting was eight quarters IE 2 inches I wondered why they have these off ways of measuring as above but also why it's always in pounds even for the weight of a truck etc.

This is the reason for the wood:-
These dimensions are very common among woodworkers and lumber folks. A 6/4 board is called out as "six-quarter" lumber, which means the board was 1-1/2-in. thick when it was cut from the green log. A 4/4 board is called out as "four-quarters," which was a 1-in.-thick board when it was cut. Why? It goes back to the sawmills. Sawmills that cut the lumber from logs are set up to increase the board thickness in quarter-inch jumps. When the sawyer cuts the log, there is a lever or handle he/she can pull that ratchets the log ahead of the blade. Four pulls are four quarters, six pulls measure out a 1-1/2-inch board, or "six quarters." They don't do 1/8-in. increments and sawyers aren't interested in converting measured fractions to carriage clicks. Do you want a one and one-quarter inch-thick board? Then you get 5/4 or 5 clicks on the log sledge. Each time the log returns to the starting point after it has passed the blade, the sawyer pulls the lever and the log advances across the carriage to cut the next board off, four clicks to the inch. For efficiency, the handle can be pre-set so the sawyer doesn't have to count clicks each time, but that is the basis of "quarter" calling lumber.
For the pound thing:-
The United States Constitution states, in Section 8 of Article I, that Congress shall have the power to “fix the standard of weights and measures.” Deciding on a system to regulate how the U.S. measured objects, compared lengths, and weighed itself was without a doubt a high priority for the founding members of the country. When they began to vet potential systems around the year 1790, the newly developed French metric system made its way to the attention of Secretary of State Thomas Jefferson. Though it was so close at hand, Jefferson, and even France until much later, decided to pass, and the U.S. adopted the British Imperial System of measurement (the one still used in the country today). Since then, the U.S. has had many opportunities to change to the metric system, the one that is used by a majority of the world and that is lauded as much more logical and simple. So why hasn’t it changed?


The biggest reasons the U.S. hasn’t adopted the metric system are simply time and money. When the Industrial Revolution began in the country, expensive manufacturing plants became the main source of American jobs and consumer products. Because the Imperial System (IS) of measurements was in place at this time, the machinery used in these factories was developed to size in IS units; all of the workers were trained to deal with IS units; and many products were made to feature IS units. Whenever the discussion of switching unit systems arose in Congress, the passage of a bill favouring the metric system was thwarted by big businesses and American citizens who didn’t want to go through the time-consuming and expensive hassle of changing the country’s entire infrastructure. Many also believed that the United States should keep its particular system, setting it apart from other countries and symbolizing its status as a leader rather than a follower.


In modern times, most have accepted a joint unit system—teaching children in school both the traditionally used IS system and the metric system that most of the rest of the world uses. This is why U.S. measuring sticks, or rulers, often contain both inches and centimetres. Unfortunately for metrics fans, widespread acceptance of joint use also means that there likely will be no official phasing out of the IS system anytime soon.
 
The thing I have tried to get my head round and generally failed is with American pickups ... They have 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton pickups apparently. 1/2 a ton is not a lot really. around 450Kg? What kind of payload is that if that is what they are talking about? and 3/4 ton is only about 700Kg.
But if you want a big 5th wheel weighing around 20,000Ibs, you need a 3/4 ton truck??

what impresses AND confuses me about American tradesmen is how they can switch between all the different fractions so easily (e.g, not needing a 1/4" bit but a 3/16" or a 13/64" or whatever) but cannot understand a metric system!
 
I had a Chevy C10 yonks ago, big feck off 350ci V8 in it, it was a long bed fleetside but only 1/4ton.


Only picture I took.

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I don't know exactly when UK adopted the metric system BUT I taught it in schools since 1972. There is still a reluctance especially amongst the older population (even I order pints in the pub and work out my mpg figure) and JRM wanted to revert to IS. I think that foundered on the bed of common sense but you never can trust politicians.

Gordon
 
I don't know exactly when UK adopted the metric system BUT I taught it in schools since 1972. There is still a reluctance especially amongst the older population (even I order pints in the pub and work out my mpg figure) and JRM wanted to revert to IS. I think that foundered on the bed of common sense but you never can trust politicians.

Gordon
Our local greengrocer in Belper now only displays everything in imperial weights. I asked if I could pay in imperial money and he didn't like it. When all his old fogey customers fall off the perch it won't make sense to anyone else. He might as well put a sign in the window saying "We're english,we're backward and proud of it."
 
I like to see both metric and imperial sizes weights and volumes, not rocket science to convert most either way and I'm shite at sums.
 
Reminds me when i went to my local spud man and ask for a half stone of spuds, he said its kilos now son, ok I said give me half a stone of kilos please.
Brilliant, made Liz laugh too.
 

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