Xgody and Nozatec Sat Navs

Biggarmac

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Advice please. My Snooper sat nav keeps freezing and I am looking at getting a new unit. Previous threads have mentioned the Nozatec and / Xgody sat navs. How easy are they to use? I have all the CMC and C&CC sites pre loaded on the snooper. Does anyone have experience of putting them on these cheaper devices? I know I will be able to put the WC POIs on these units which I could not do on the Snooper
 

Reiverlad

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Hi, I have a nozatec satnav, the 7in model and i find it is a great bit of kit
One of the best features for me is that the volume is loud enough to hear in my, less than quiet van !
There is a dedicated group for this satnav on Facebook where the map updates are available ( more regularly than anywhere else)
Also user guides etc, in fact everything you need to use the satnav to it's potential.
There is also files to download - all the poi's you could wish for, including both the CMC & the C&CC club poi's

Worth having a look on the Facebook group to help you make up your mind
 

Mick Jordan

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Advice please. My Snooper sat nav keeps freezing and I am looking at getting a new unit. Previous threads have mentioned the Nozatec and / Xgody sat navs. How easy are they to use? I have all the CMC and C&CC sites pre loaded on the snooper. Does anyone have experience of putting them on these cheaper devices? I know I will be able to put the WC POIs on these units which I could not do on the Snooper
I second 1. That Nozatec (mine)/XGody(believed to be same) are very good. 2. Look at the facebook group which is very helpful. I found that when I updated the maps last time, the guy that provides them, Peter Branch, had very helpfully included all the variations of C&M/H Club, and C & C club and other camper sites that you could wish for. Made my life a whole lot easier ! Much better this route than the other expensive well known brands I think. Works well for me.
 

Biggarmac

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I second 1. That Nozatec (mine)/XGody(believed to be same) are very good. 2. Look at the facebook group which is very helpful. I found that when I updated the maps last time, the guy that provides them, Peter Branch, had very helpfully included all the variations of C&M/H Club, and C & C club and other camper sites that you could wish for. Made my life a whole lot easier ! Much better this route than the other expensive well known brands I think. Works well for me.
Thanks for the update. It looks as if that will be good for my needs.
 

Rumour

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Word of warning. I have had two and both have caused problems. One was in the centre of France where it let me down trying to find a site. Yes they are cheap, but as said, look at the facebook pages dedicated to the problems. Also check what it does too. It is just a standard sat-nav with the added weight and dimensions. Ifg you get a good one it may be OK, but only if you can afford to throw away £50!
 

hairydog

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Word of warning. I have had two and both have caused problems. One was in the centre of France where it let me down trying to find a site. Yes they are cheap, but as said, look at the facebook pages dedicated to the problems. Also check what it does too. It is just a standard sat-nav with the added weight and dimensions. Ifg you get a good one it may be OK, but only if you can afford to throw away £50!
Sorry, but that is utter balderdash.
The navigation software on them is iGo Primo, which is VERY high-end. It has loads more features than any other software on the consumer market.
It is very definitely not a standard sat-nav with added weights and dimensions. It's the software used in some high-end Blaupunkt and some other satnav systems, often "skinned" to conceal the iGo branding.
However, it is not designed to be intuitive: you really do need to read the user guide to use it properly. And they are often supplied with no user guide, but with defective configuration and missing files in the map data set: that's why you need to get the latest mapping update from the Facebook group.
As for letting you down when trying to find a site, please explain what way it let you down. By failing to work? By taking you to the wrong place? By taking a wrong route?
The Nozatec hardware is definitely low budget: it does cost only about £40 retail (I've never seen it as expensive as £50). The quality control can be iffy ay that price point, but if you get a duff one, send it back for a refund and buy another!
 

Biggarmac

Rally Organiser
Thank you both for your experiences and advice. An Xgody with bluethooth ordered. The snooper I have been using since 2013 keeps freezing at the most inopportune times. About to be the sad person with two sat navs!
 

Rumour

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Sorry, but that is utter balderdash.
The navigation software on them is iGo Primo, which is VERY high-end. It has loads more features than any other software on the consumer market.
It is very definitely not a standard sat-nav with added weights and dimensions. It's the software used in some high-end Blaupunkt and some other satnav systems, often "skinned" to conceal the iGo branding.
However, it is not designed to be intuitive: you really do need to read the user guide to use it properly. And they are often supplied with no user guide, but with defective configuration and missing files in the map data set: that's why you need to get the latest mapping update from the Facebook group.
As for letting you down when trying to find a site, please explain what way it let you down. By failing to work? By taking you to the wrong place? By taking a wrong route?
The Nozatec hardware is definitely low budget: it does cost only about £40 retail (I've never seen it as expensive as £50). The quality control can be iffy ay that price point, but if you get a duff one, send it back for a refund and buy another!
Well, I can only speak for the two versions I have bought! Far from being what I would call "premium" I had to download extra software to get it to work and had trouble updating maps. The one that let us down in the middle of France was definitely crap! I don't care what the software is, if it don't work, it don't work!

As for being good? Tell me why the cheap ones have Facebook pages dedicated to problems? They are full of people seeking help to get them working and the number who like us had a failure where the screen just went blank! But there you are defending it, then saying

"However, it is not designed to be intuitive: you really do need to read the user guide to use it properly. And they are often supplied with no user guide, but with defective configuration and missing files in the map data set: that's why you need to get the latest mapping update from the Facebook group."

If that is not a warning on how good they are, I don't know what is! and as for "balderdash" with a throwaway "sorry".... I speak as I find and you have taken the trouble to back up my criticism of el cheapo's! Thanks...
 

Edina

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I have used nozatec and later xgody in the UK with no problems, but they both let me down in Northern France. When heading north from Le Mans, with the ferry port at Ouistreham as the destination, the nozatec set the route to near Le Havre and then did a straight line east to west. The xgody, which we used on our next trip to France, did the same thing. They both had the latest map releases from the facebook user group page and deleting and re-installing the maps made no difference.
I now have a tom tom go camper.
 

wildebus

Full Member
PS. If anyone is after an XGODY Sat Nav with Reversing Camera, I have a unit available that I used for a very short time before I decided to go back to a Garmin unit (just my personal preference after using Garmin for years).
Can take to Moffat in a couple of weeks time if anyone interested.

Price? make me an offer :)
 

hairydog

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Yes, there is a nasty bug in the old Windows CE version of the software. If a routing segment is across the Greenwich meridian, it can mess up and jump to the same position on the other side of the meridian. Bizarre!
Other versions don't have that bug: it is in the software's routeing engine, not the mapping data. And it's quite hard to trigger, but entirely repeatable. Change the start or end point of the route by just a few metres and the problem goes away. I don't know what would happen if you drove the suggested route. Would it sort itself out?
 

hairydog

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PS. If anyone is after an XGODY Sat Nav with Reversing Camera, I have a unit available that I used for a very short time before I decided to go back to a Garmin unit (just my personal preference after using Garmin for years).
Can take to Moffat in a couple of weeks time if anyone interested.

Price? make me an offer :)
Why? The Xgody is unquestionably better than a Garmin (apart from screen brightness), so either yours is faulty or you are not using it correctly.
It is true that Xgody are supplied badly misconfigured. It's well worth doing a "reset to factory defaults" before setting it up and using it, or it may be a bit flaky.
The problem is that they are so cheap that there is no budget for proper support, which is why literally thousands of people use the Facebook support group, mostly to get map updates.
 

wildebus

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Why? The Xgody is unquestionably better than a Garmin (apart from screen brightness), so either yours is faulty or you are not using it correctly.
It is true that Xgody are supplied badly misconfigured. It's well worth doing a "reset to factory defaults" before setting it up and using it, or it may be a bit flaky.
The problem is that they are so cheap that there is no budget for proper support, which is why literally thousands of people use the Facebook support group, mostly to get map updates.
Why? because I like the Garmin better. It is THAT SIMPLE.
Just because YOU think something is better does not mean it IS better, it is just YOUR opinion, which is no more valid than anyone elses opinion - and in THIS CASE for my needs and wishes it is totally invalid as I prefer the Garmin interface, end of.

I didn't have any issues with it, but ref your comment "If a routing segment is across the Greenwich meridian, it can mess up and jump to the same position on the other side of the meridian".... I actually live very very close to the meridian so that bug would be damn annoying.

So back to my original post ...

If anyone is after an XGODY (the most incredibly wonderful Sat Nav in the history of Mankind apparently), I have one that I can bring to Moffat as I have incredibly stupidly actually decided to use a different Sat Nav which is vastly inferior, but there you go. My loss can be your opportunity.
 

hairydog

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You are quite entitled to prefer what you like. I am asking you what you prefer about it. If you can only get nasty, that suggests something...
The meridian bug is very hard to trigger. It's not just being on the meridian, it's a lot more complex than that. Have you seen the problem?
 

hairydog

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You are quite entitled to prefer what you like. I am asking you what you prefer about it. If you can only get nasty, that suggests something...
Being better is not always a recipe for success. Betamax was unquestionably better than VHS, but people liked the latter, probably because porn was mostly available on VHS, and because the tape cassettes were smaller.
The meridian bug is very hard to trigger. It's not just being on the meridian, it's a lot more complex than that. Have you seen the problem?
 

wildebus

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You are quite entitled to prefer what you like. I am asking you what you prefer about it. If you can only get nasty, that suggests something...
Being better is not always a recipe for success. Betamax was unquestionably better than VHS, but people liked the latter, probably because porn was mostly available on VHS, and because the tape cassettes were smaller.
The meridian bug is very hard to trigger. It's not just being on the meridian, it's a lot more complex than that. Have you seen the problem?
I am not being nasty, I am being direct with you.
I had a Garmin for a few years in my T5 and when I bought my LT I got the XGODY as it also had the Reversing Camera option and was good value.
After a very short time, I found I much prefered the Garmin interface. IT IS THAT SIMPLE.
I have no wish, desire or need to try to like another unit if there is an option I like better anyway and does the job. So I put the XGODY back in the box and I bought another Garmin (and this time one with a Camera Option) and I am very happy with it. It was significantly more expensive but that is my choice and not one I regret at all as it is a unit I like and has worked admirably since I bought it.

Have I seen the problem? No, I have seen no problems with the XGODY other than I just didn't like it as much as a Garmin, of which Navigation Products I have used since around 2001 (starting with the Garmin Vista with its tiny screen and car kit), and so I changed.
 

wildebus

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PS. As well as the XGODY I have available, if anyone is after a GARMIN unit, I have a 2595LMT 5" unit available that I bought in 2012 and was in use in my Master, T4 and T5 and briefly my LT until I bought a Garmin Camper 660 (to give me access to the Reversing Camera option and weight and dimension selection, which is handy in a 4.6t van)
as an LMT model, the 2595 comes with Lifetime FREE Mapping and Traffic updates and is in full working condition.
It has all the usual Garmin features including the 'RealPhoto' Junction view, which is actually remarkably useful.
 

hairydog

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I am not being nasty, I am being direct with you.
I had a Garmin for a few years in my T5 and when I bought my LT I got the XGODY as it also had the Reversing Camera option and was good value.
After a very short time, I found I much prefered the Garmin interface. IT IS THAT SIMPLE.
I have no wish, desire or need to try to like another unit if there is an option I like better anyway and does the job. So I put the XGODY back in the box and I bought another Garmin (and this time one with a Camera Option) and I am very happy with it. It was significantly more expensive but that is my choice and not one I regret at all as it is a unit I like and has worked admirably since I bought it.

Have I seen the problem? No, I have seen no problems with the XGODY other than I just didn't like it as much as a Garmin, of which Navigation Products I have used since around 2001 (starting with the Garmin Vista with its tiny screen and car kit), and so I changed.
So you've not had a problem with the Xgody, but the Garmin is more familiar. Fair enough. I was using Garmin a lot earlier than 2001.
When did the Streetpilot come out? [Later] seems it was 1998. [/Later] Though I didn't use that much. The GPS III+ was the real breakthrough - I bought one of then when SA was switched off for good. It still works brilliantly. Come to that, the Streetpilot still works, but it's really just a museum piece.
Despite many years of using Garmin - and getting the benefit of their (then, not now) support and aftersales, I think they lost the plot. Good enough hardware, not good enough software, in my view.
The Xgody hardware is not a patch on the quality of Garmin, but iGo Primo is vastly better.
 
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hairydog

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You're lucky, I am the sad person with 5 or 6
Hmmm. I just had a tidy up yesterday evening.
There are now 6 satnavs on my desk as well as two in the motorhome, one built into the car, two or three stored away, one on loan to someone.
Plus satnav programs on phones.
I'd get out more if I could find the way.
Beyond sad!
 

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