Norfolk NewBoy
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Oops! I got that wrong didn't I?Where did you learn science? You should ask for a refund.
BUT it still doesn't explain why you think grey is going to be a "bad" colour.
Oops! I got that wrong didn't I?Where did you learn science? You should ask for a refund.
I seem to remember the one I went to was in Leeds. I bought a Pilote pvc a few years ago and I was seriously impressed with its quilted insulation. Silver foil both sides of some thick duvet-type filling with a diamond quilt stitched in to it so the filling doesn't fall down. I paid £38k for it, new. That was before all the excuses they dreamed up for doubling prices.We too went to one in Leeds with a good name, apart from the rubbish camping mat style insulation and the kitchen layout fixed in stone we really liked it.
This is the one we visited.I seem to remember the one I went to was in Leeds. I bought a Pilote pvc a few years ago and I was seriously impressed with its quilted insulation. Silver foil both sides of some thick duvet-type filling with a diamond quilt stitched in to it so the filling doesn't fall down. I paid £38k for it, new. That was before all the excuses they dreamed up for doubling prices.
A convector is something that causes convection currents. A radiator is something that sits there and glows. As in my wife's radiant beauty . . . . . .
Will that get me anything tonight? ... .... ... .. Don't be daft.
Or, a radio or TV transmitter antenna. That radiates radio waves - or TV waves. Electromagnetic waves, at very high frequencies.
Grey is a wide range of shades. Nearly white is fine, nearly black is terrible. In between, it's a sliding scale. Dark grey is bad. Matt finish is bad.Oops! I got that wrong didn't I?
BUT it still doesn't explain why you think grey is going to be a "bad" colour.
A better explanation here:Household water filled room heaters should be called convectors, not radiators. I don't know where the radiator word started but it doesn't radiate much. They should in all reasonableness be matt black which radiates a lot better than white. If you aren't convinced, sit in a white car on a hot summers day, then get into a black car parked next to it and then you will be.
I agree absolutely. I recently watched a Youtube video review of a common caravan at the NEC October show. The caravan price was £23,000 and obviously included the bodywork, chassis, wheels and brakes and electrics. And VAT. It had all the innards that you would expect in a 6mtr motorhome or campervan. I may be wrong but let me assume the caravan innards cost for example £12k. Furniture, bedding, gas combi boiler, lights, plumbing, cooker, washroom, kitchen. I then priced up buying a brand new Fiat Ducato high roof long wheelbase (not 6mtr) van and it was £42k (A swb low roof is £31k) including all the taxes and the taxes on the taxes. (A vehicle has VAT on top of the car tax. In other words the car tax is taxed). I am going to be rash and assume that the construction costs of the furniture - cupboards, tables, chairs, kitchen units would be the same for a van and a caravan. The caravan already has its body included in the £23,000 and so does the panel van in its £42,000 so there can't be any costs associated with the bodywork. The only difference really is that the panel van has to be insulated. They both have to be wired up with mains and 12v, they both have leisure batteries and the associated wiring, they both have hot and cold water, a kitchen sink and a toilet. So how does £23,000 plus £42,000 suddenly become an £80,000 panel van conversion? Specially when the major converters wouldn't be paying anything like retail for the vans. I once was manufacturing a product for Rover cars. I asked if I could buy the 'Brochure car' - the one with seven coats of hand finished paint and all the accessories. They said it will be crushed. "If we were to sell it to you we would have to register it as a car, and pay VAT on it. We can make another car for less than the VAT". That tells you what it costs them to make a car. Less than the VAT they would have to pay.I can't see where the value is in any normally priced motorhome. For what you get for the money they are just overpriced. There just a van with a cheap wood interior and some electrical stuff, some put together (even coach built) very badly.
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Oddly I had the opposite conversation with Liz at the weekend, she just paid a grand for a week's cruise which included a bus trip down to Heathrow, hours and hours in 4 airports, hours and hours on a train up from Stansted, then moaned about how much a trip to France would cost, no comparison to my mind, she must be mad, not to mention all the effing about getting the best deal for weeks on end.I keep thinking about how many cruises you can have for the price of a motorhome,