What did you do to your van today?

I've never used our moho shower, to scared incase it runs out of water halfway through, or worse still something goes wrong and the van gets flooded out.
Everything else in the van sofar has been knackered so this would just be the next problem.
Interesting. I have never used a campsite shower or toilet and always use my on-board facilities.

If you have a way to monitor your water level, then you could easily see how much a 'typical' shower will use and decide it you have enough? My water supply (including Hot Tank) is 90L - If my tank showed 25% full I would not use it for a shower. 50% or more, no problem (display jumps by 25% steps from 0 to 100%)
 
Interesting. I have never used a campsite shower or toilet and always use my on-board facilities.

If you have a way to monitor your water level, then you could easily see how much a 'typical' shower will use and decide it you have enough? My water supply (including Hot Tank) is 90L - If my tank showed 25% full I would not use it for a shower. 50% or more, no problem (display jumps by 25% steps from 0 to 100%)
I will probably go round and strip / reseal everything 1st to be fair and then do some sort of trial at home.
Mine does the 25% steps water measurement aswell, although I think the hot water is on demand as I can only remember seeing 1 freshwater tank which is the ambient supply for everything. It's quite old - 2007 Swift / Ace Airstream.
I've also found some sort of hatch from underneath of vehicle which is directly under the shower so I will investigate this aswell as I supect It's an access to the drain hole assy in shower tray.
When I inspected what I could see of shower last year it looks like someone has gone over all the joins and original sealer with a thin layer of silicone, its very tidy and could be factory, neither can I see any previous evidence of damp but I would rather strip it all and reseal it properly just to be on the safe side due to its age as silicone does break down and like I say this 2nd layer could be there as a botch over.
The other thing with the shower is I dont think the bird could do a five minute shower, She has about 5 different bottles of potions that she HAS to use apparently, and her showers can last upto half an hour so She definitely will run the moho dry. 🙈
I do like to wildcamp although the council is making this difficult but every other night we have to site up just so the GF can use facilities.
 
Discovered a very slow way to fill the water tank in the Motorhome on Thursday evening....
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Took ages to get 48 Litres of bottled water in there with a funnel! (lots of the bottles not in the photo!)
But needs must and I managed to get a shower that night 🚿
We did the same on a Lidl Car Park 2 years ago - 2 Packs of 2 litre bottles, took ages as you say, but we were able to dispose of the plastic waste by filling the store's public plastic waste bin ... (y)

Steve
 
I will probably go round and strip / reseal everything 1st to be fair and then do some sort of trial at home.
Mine does the 25% steps water measurement aswell, although I think the hot water is on demand as I can only remember seeing 1 freshwater tank which is the ambient supply for everything. It's quite old - 2007 Swift / Ace Airstream.
I've also found some sort of hatch from underneath of vehicle which is directly under the shower so I will investigate this aswell as I supect It's an access to the drain hole assy in shower tray.
When I inspected what I could see of shower last year it looks like someone has gone over all the joins and original sealer with a thin layer of silicone, its very tidy and could be factory, neither can I see any previous evidence of damp but I would rather strip it all and reseal it properly just to be on the safe side due to its age as silicone does break down and like I say this 2nd layer could be there as a botch over.
The other thing with the shower is I dont think the bird could do a five minute shower, She has about 5 different bottles of potions that she HAS to use apparently, and her showers can last upto half an hour so She definitely will run the moho dry. 🙈
I do like to wildcamp although the council is making this difficult but every other night we have to site up just so the GF can use facilities.
I would guess that you have a Truma Ultrastore in your Swift? that would have a 10L tank within the Boiler. It is very important to ascertain this and if you do have hot water storage as come winter, if you don't drain it down (seperate drain for fresh and hot) you could end up with a major issue if the water freezes!

It is very unlikely any motorhomes except possibly very high end ones have a true "hot water on demand" system as the amount of power required to instantly heat cold water to be hot enough for washing is extremely high and beyond the capability of the supplies in a standard Motorhome.
Even the domestic "on demand" hot water systems have a small storage tank as a buffer. On my last camper conversion, I fitted a domestic "on demand" Ariston Hot Water Heater - the type that you might find in a workshop or industrial facility to give you local hot water where there is no plumbed hot water and no storage - but even that "on demand" system had a 10L tank within it

Most people seem to like to do the "navy wash" where you only turn the water on to wet and rinse yourself, and off while soaping and actual washing to save water. I personally usually have a normal shower :)
 
I would guess that you have a Truma Ultrastore in your Swift? that would have a 10L tank within the Boiler. It is very important to ascertain this and if you do have hot water storage as come winter, if you don't drain it down (seperate drain for fresh and hot) you could end up with a major issue if the water freezes!

It is very unlikely any motorhomes except possibly very high end ones have a true "hot water on demand" system as the amount of power required to instantly heat cold water to be hot enough for washing is extremely high and beyond the capability of the supplies in a standard Motorhome.
Even the domestic "on demand" hot water systems have a small storage tank as a buffer. On my last camper conversion, I fitted a domestic "on demand" Ariston Hot Water Heater - the type that you might find in a workshop or industrial facility to give you local hot water where there is no plumbed hot water and no storage - but even that "on demand" system had a 10L tank within it

Most people seem to like to do the "navy wash" where you only turn the water on to wet and rinse yourself, and off while soaping and actual washing to save water. I personally usually have a normal shower :)
I soap the shower walls and rotate slowly; saves water for just rinsing and keeps the shower wall clean ... Of course, *when* I lose weight, I will have to resort to traditional methods of showering ... :ROFLMAO:

Steve
 
I soap the shower walls and rotate slowly; saves water for just rinsing and keeps the shower wall clean ... Of course, *when* I lose weight, I will have to resort to traditional methods of showering ... :ROFLMAO:

Steve
custom fit cubicle, huh :)
 
I would guess that you have a Truma Ultrastore in your Swift? that would have a 10L tank within the Boiler. It is very important to ascertain this and if you do have hot water storage as come winter, if you don't drain it down (seperate drain for fresh and hot) you could end up with a major issue if the water freezes!

It is very unlikely any motorhomes except possibly very high end ones have a true "hot water on demand" system as the amount of power required to instantly heat cold water to be hot enough for washing is extremely high and beyond the capability of the supplies in a standard Motorhome.
Even the domestic "on demand" hot water systems have a small storage tank as a buffer. On my last camper conversion, I fitted a domestic "on demand" Ariston Hot Water Heater - the type that you might find in a workshop or industrial facility to give you local hot water where there is no plumbed hot water and no storage - but even that "on demand" system had a 10L tank within it

Most people seem to like to do the "navy wash" where you only turn the water on to wet and rinse yourself, and off while soaping and actual washing to save water. I personally usually have a normal shower :)
I soap the shower walls and rotate slowly; saves water for just rinsing and keeps the shower wall clean ... Of course, *when* I lose weight, I will have to resort to traditional methods of showering ... :ROFLMAO:

Steve
custom fit cubicle, huh :)
Naw, just one that I have 'grown into' [like my mother used to promise that I would when she bought my duffle coats ...] :ROFLMAO:. I am the living embodiment of thedefinition of obesity - 'a lot of good food gone to waist'

Steve

Steve
 
I soap the shower walls and rotate slowly; saves water for just rinsing and keeps the shower wall clean ... Of course, *when* I lose weight, I will have to resort to traditional methods of showering ... :ROFLMAO:

Steve

Naw, just one that I have 'grown into' [like my mother used to promise that I would when she bought my duffle coats ...] :ROFLMAO:. I am the living embodiment of thedefinition of obesity - 'a lot of good food gone to waist'


Steve

Steve
This is like choosing a certain make of clothes as 'their' L clothes fit whereas the other makers L sizes are too small (so obviously made wrong :) )

My mum always gave me my older siblings hand-me-downs to 'grow into'. I wouldn't have minded, but pleated dresses had gone out of fashion by the time they fitted :D
 
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I would guess that you have a Truma Ultrastore in your Swift? that would have a 10L tank within the Boiler. It is very important to ascertain this and if you do have hot water storage as come winter, if you don't drain it down (seperate drain for fresh and hot) you could end up with a major issue if the water freezes!

It is very unlikely any motorhomes except possibly very high end ones have a true "hot water on demand" system as the amount of power required to instantly heat cold water to be hot enough for washing is extremely high and beyond the capability of the supplies in a standard Motorhome.
Even the domestic "on demand" hot water systems have a small storage tank as a buffer. On my last camper conversion, I fitted a domestic "on demand" Ariston Hot Water Heater - the type that you might find in a workshop or industrial facility to give you local hot water where there is no plumbed hot water and no storage - but even that "on demand" system had a 10L tank within it

Most people seem to like to do the "navy wash" where you only turn the water on to wet and rinse yourself, and off while soaping and actual washing to save water. I personally usually have a normal shower :)
Your more than likely correct.
There is a blue and a red toggle valve that both drain out of the same drain pipe which I opened both up anyway last winter so I guess this covered both sides of the frost drain down.
Were totally new to this motorhome buisness so slowly learning.
I was thinking of some kind of water induced soap foam dispenser could be useful which then switches over to water for the rinse. 🤔 🤣
 
Made a new plate rack to replace the plastic one in the cupboard which probably held the original crockery in place ok but was hopeless for holding ours. Plywood board now has cutouts that keep our stuff secure.
K ;)
 
It amazes me manufacturers don't fit bottom fill ...on my van I have a single tap when closed the van sucks water from any external container via a short length of hose attached to the fill point hose connector,same tap open water from underslung tank,I usually carry either full or empty can,much less hassle than watering cans etc
 
It amazes me manufacturers don't fit bottom fill ...on my van I have a single tap when closed the van sucks water from any external container via a short length of hose attached to the fill point hose connector,same tap open water from underslung tank,I usually carry either full or empty can,much less hassle than watering cans etc
Don’t think that arrangement would suit me at all. I like a big filler pipe so that I can stick a hosepipe on and fill the tank quickly from the tap. Bottom fill dual purpose pipe suggests a small diameter pipe and having to overcome the pressure of water already in the tank, which would slow the filling process down far too much for me. I would soon lose patience and feel guilty about the length of time I was hogging the tap if it took more than a few minutes to get my 100 litres of water onboard. Bottom fill sounds more like a caravan arrangement where water is usually pumped from a container and sometimes pumped into an extra onboard tank.
 
The bottom fill idea sounds like an incredible faff to me! No thanks.
 
Don't see the faff tap open /tap closed..much less faff than tipping water in the top.Fills with a hose pipe with hose lock connector takes no longer than filling from the top,short pipe with same connector straight into external container..no extra pumps,wires ,no repeated trips with a watering can,no fear of running out 1/2 way through a shower...if tank is low I attach spare container...if main tank runs out close tap !
 
Don't see the faff tap open /tap closed..much less faff than tipping water in the top.Fills with a hose pipe with hose lock connector takes no longer than filling from the top,short pipe with same connector straight into external container..no extra pumps,wires ,no repeated trips with a watering can,no fear of running out 1/2 way through a shower...if tank is low I attach spare container...if main tank runs out close tap !
who needs or wants to use let alone carry an external container?
extra pumps? who uses ANY pumps to fill let alone extra ones?
repeated trips with a watering can? if you don't have enough water to avoid repeated trips with a watering can, it doen't matter how you fill the tank that will change that.

Maybe I don't understand what you are saying, but how can changing from just putting a hose into a filler point to gravity fill your tank be made any simplier and less faffy?
 
who needs or wants to use let alone carry an external container?
extra pumps? who uses ANY pumps to fill let alone extra ones?
repeated trips with a watering can? if you don't have enough water to avoid repeated trips with a watering can, it doen't matter how you fill the tank that will change that.

Maybe I don't understand what you are saying, but how can changing from just putting a hose into a filler point to gravity fill your tank be made any simplier and less faffy?
A 3 minute wander to the water tap with a 5 litre carrier and a spare 5 litre supermarket water bottle is no hardship to keep the tank level at a sensible balance between weight and availability. We need to put in about 60 litres at home when refilling the tank from empty, so that there is enough for the water heater, and running off some water to expel the airlocks; after that, we travel with 20-30 litres on board - enough to get us through an overnight if the destination has taps turned off etc, and on arrival, add another 20-30 litres, especially if we're staying 2-3 nights. After that, the 2 x 5 litre containers wil keep the Tank at a sensible level. Hammering payload and fuel consumption to transport water is profligate! :ROFLMAO:

Steve
 
Can't be anyone that hasn't seen people filling tanks with a watering can or small can .. we've seen loads particularly at rallies,We have a 25lr can full if load permits( which it does) and a purpose made collapsible trolly for it or the cassette on rough ground( rally fields) so 1 trip empty s cassette and bring 25 LTRs water back..plug onto van job done.( think earlier in this thread someone mentioned an extra pump and I've seen several others)
 
Can't be anyone that hasn't seen people filling tanks with a watering can or small can .. we've seen loads particularly at rallies,We have a 25lr can full if load permits( which it does) and a purpose made collapsible trolly for it or the cassette on rough ground( rally fields) so 1 trip empty s cassette and bring 25 LTRs water back..plug onto van job done.( think earlier in this thread someone mentioned an extra pump and I've seen several others)
The only time you would need a pump is if you are trying to fill a tank with a 25L container which would be too heavy to lift.
Makes far more sense to either fill up from a tap point before you set up on your pitch instead of faffing around with containers and collaspable trolleys. What a pain that is! If you need more water, just drive to the tap and fill your tank instead of going back and forth with small containers (and 25L is a small container compared to a fresh water tank).
nope, your argument/explanation swings your idea about "bottom filling" to me not one iota.
 
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