Refillable gas bottle

"the bottles were approaching the 10 year limit"

There is no 10 year limit. They are lying to you.
 
Molly 3 said:
My autosleeper has a factory fitted underslung tank that has a ten year life span ,Marquise gouted £1500 for a replacement, ??? LPG NOT exactly a win win .
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For your privately owned, end-user refillable bottles, you are legally required to have them tested every 10 years, note the word Tested, not changed.
 
This contentious point raises its head periodically, it seems refillable bottle retailers don't as a rule offer testing.
It would be useful if you could post a link to the relevant legislation to help clarify the situation, or indeed to the source of your information.

Davy
 
Geek said:
Had this one sixteen years and that figure includes the repairs, averaged over the years.

[Later] though on reflection, there are quite a few non-garage repairs I didn't include. Perhaps £1k per year might be nearer the mark.

Nothing as much as like the loss of interest on the capital tied up.
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But they don't make them like they used too
Peregrinator said:
For your privately owned, end-user refillable bottles, you are legally required to have them tested every 10 years, note the word Tested, not changed.
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Can you recommend a testing company??
 
Peregrinator said:
For your privately owned, end-user refillable bottles, you are legally required to have them tested every 10 years, note the word Tested, not changed.
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Not unless you hire out your van. For private use there is no such requirement. However manufacturers do say the valves should be tested/changed every 10 years. Nobody does this for LPG cylinders.
 
nabsim said:
Not unless you hire out your van. For private use there is no such requirement. However manufacturers do say the valves should be tested/changed every 10 years. Nobody does this for LPG cylinders.
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My underslung tank suddenly started to look very rusty , gasit recommend thar you paint it with stone chip every year, gasit it now do a rust proof one at autogas 2000 ,
 
Molly 3 said:
My underslung tank suddenly started to look very rusty , gasit recommend thar you paint it with stone chip every year, gasit it now do a rust proof one at autogas 2000 ,
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Autogas2000 and GasIt are same company Baz. Charlie bought them
 
Molly 3 said:
But they don't make them like they used too
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Well, actually, the replacement is the same make as the original, though it is a smaller size (I replaced a 100l with a 70l to get better ground clearance).

It is now about eight or nine years old and looks good as new.

It is actually wearing better than the original, probably because they painted this one with anti-chip paint.

The old one was the original red paint
 
Your 10.8 lites would have cost you £33 approx if it was a calor exchange so a saving of £20 against your investment. Plus no lugging a bottle about.(y)
 
Molly 3 said:
Can you recommend a testing company??
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Where a test is legally required ( not in your case) it is probably easier to just replace the thing.

Where there is no legal requirement, there is no definition of what this test has to involve, so you could test it yourself, or indeed could ask a passing stray cat what its opinion is of the device. Though cats can be a bit inscrutable when reporting the results.
 
Peregrinator said:
For your privately owned, end-user refillable bottles, you are legally required to have them tested every 10 years, note the word Tested, not changed.
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Unless something has changed very recently you cannot get private lpg bottles tested. The 10 year stamp from manufacturers is because that’s when they recommend you change the valves in the bottles/cylinders. There is no law or regulation unless what they are fitted to is used for hire.
 
nabsim said:
Autogas2000 and GasIt are same company Baz. Charlie bought them
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Yep Charlie fitted me a new underslung tank this year , 11 YEARS OLD WELL RUSTY ,another problem is the straps corrodes and the tank falls off
 
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In the UK, the testing of LPG cylinders is primarily governed by The Carriage of Dangerous Goods and Use of Transportable Pressure Equipment Regulations, which implements the international ADR (Agreement concerning the International Transport of Dangerous Goods by Road).


Key Legal Requirements
  • Mandatory Periodic Inspection: All refillable LPG cylinders used for transport of gas by road in the UK must be periodically inspected and tested to ensure they are safe and fit for purpose.
  • Maximum Interval: The standard maximum interval between these inspections is 10 years.
  • Extended Interval: The interval can be extended to 15 years if the cylinder owner applies to and receives authorisation from the national competent authority, which in the UK is the Vehicle Certification Agency (VCA). This requires meeting specific conditions and an enhanced internal inspection procedure. Cylinders with this authorization are marked "P15Y".
  • Competent Persons/Bodies: Periodic inspection and testing must be carried out by an approved Inspection Body.
    • Cylinder Marking: Following a successful inspection, the date of the inspection and the identification number of the inspection body must be permanently marked on the cylinder.
    • Pre-fill Checks: Cylinders must also undergo documented checks before, during, and after every fill in accordance with relevant standards (e.g., BS EN 1439).
    • Landlord/Commercial Use: For LPG appliances provided by landlords in tenanted properties or for commercial use, there is a legal requirement under the Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations 1998 for an annual safety check by a Gas Safe registered engineer.


Responsible Parties
  • Cylinder Owners: The owner of the cylinders (often the LPG supplier) is responsible for ensuring the cylinders are manufactured to appropriate standards and undergo the required periodic inspections.
  • Users: Users of LPG systems have a duty to ensure that the whole system is in a safe condition at all times and that regular maintenance is conducted.
  • Inspection Bodies: Approved inspection bodies are responsible for conducting the official periodic testing and marking the cylinders.
 
That's above average though, we seem to be paying 89 to 99pl, when we can find it of course.
 
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