Tempted to buy E&P levelling system

[Phillybarbour]

My cup of tea seems to taste the same if the van is level or sloped!

 

[Wully]

I was away this weekend and they were invaluable guy next to me nearly burnt his clutch out trying to get on a set of ramps. Should have seen his wife’s mush when I parked up never got out of? van just preset a button and it done the biz no rock leval as a billiard table I felt a wee bit embarrassed for him I couldn’t drink my tea for the smell of burnt clutch.?

 

[Glass man]

Much the same price in Holland, we go there a lot as my wife is Dutch.
The jacks are made at the headquarters and so every part can be repaired or replaced if needed. I've had mine 5 years and use them at least 150 times a year.
VERY PLEASED WITH THEM.

 

[Chasn]

I have been looking at levelling and air suspension systems and although they do different jobs there are areas of overlap and few of us buy full air system and levelling. Apart from cost, all these add-ons keep adding weight. Whilst it is nice to have levelling at the push of a button, most people seem to manage quite well without it, either with ramps or by being a bit more selective with the sites they choose. The basic form of air suspension is often chosen by owners who operate for many years near maximum weight when the rear suspension starts to sag. Also MH's with large overhangs and limited ground clearance benefit from rear air suspension. Stability on the road is a useful enhancement but not usually a critical benefit. Full air adds the ability to lower as well as raise for improved access and can produce a moderate amount of levelling onsite, probably enough to do the job that ramps normally do. If rock hard stability onsite is essential then a levelling system is the only way to go but unless you are dealing with very uneven ground, might not a full air system with a pair of steadies do the job? Both full air suspension (about £6k) and levelling (about £5k) are very expensive and those of us considering these options are only likely to choose one or the other but not both. A pair of steadies cost only a few hundred pounds so for a reduced amount of levelling and stability onsite I am tempted to go for full air with steadies instead which has all the other advantages when the vehicles is on the move. Certainly jacking up with a levelling system allows for easier wheel changing and can be used to offload the wheels and suspension during winter layups but to me the on the move advantages of full air are more appealing. I would be interested in some informed analysis of my comments.

 

[Jezport]

I had leveling and full air suspension fitted at SAP. The Air suspension is far more of a need than the leveling for me but in for a penny!
I do now love the ease at which I can pitch up and not have the water overflow the shower tray etc. But I would rather go for air than leveling if it was a choice between them, you can level to a degree with full air, but you wont remove the rocking when you move in the van oir the wind comes up.

 

[Chasn]

>>you wont remove the rocking when you move in the van oir the wind comes up.<<

I was thinking that a pair of Al-Ko steady legs would minimise this problem.

 

[Jezport]

>>you wont remove the rocking when you move in the van oir the wind comes up.<<

I was thinking that a pair of Al-Ko steady legs would minimise this problem.

Our last van had alko rear steady legs, they are useless. If anyone moves in the front of the van it still rocks around.

 

[Trek]

I have rear steadies but never think of using them

also have supplementary Dunlop air bags on the rear axle But only use these when driving across camp site fields

normally keep them at the minimum 0.5 to 1.0 bar but when going off road i pump them up with on board compressor and storage reservoir to 7.0 bar to reduce the (sometimes alarming ) body roll my sprinter exhibits when driving across potholed ground

when on the tarmac then it behaves itself

 

[Chasn]

Our last van had alko rear steady legs, they are useless. If anyone moves in the front of the van it still rocks around.

Presumably it isn't practical to fit steadies at the front as well?

 

[Wully]

Don’t know if that would work with all the gubins of front suspension just no space up front. I’ve got two alko wind up steadies on back there ok but a wee bit flimsy

 

[GB584]

Parked up next to an identical van a couple of years ago on a slopped carpark. I was quite chuffed that I was able to get us reasonably level on my ramps. The guy next to us waited until I had finished and then like Thunderbird 3 his van rose majestically as the legs lowered, it's a shame they don't come with a dry ice effect. Not content with that impressive display they later moved their van to a spot with a sea view...took him just seconds. I was really enthusiastic until I saw the price, however we have now compromised and use the grandchildren's Tommy Tippee anti spill cups for the wine when uneven : )

 

[Trek]

Got em fitted !

 

[Wully]

Got em fitted !

You’ll not regret it best thing I’ve done was down at the green frog at Moffat 2 weeks ago drove too far onto grass field stupid thing to do but just parked spent the weekend in the rain ground was a bog tried to reverse off nothing just spin. One press of a button wheels off the ground slid a piece of concrete slab underneath and reversed out. You get so used to them you’ll even use them when you stop for a cuppa enjoy. You never mentioned who fitted them

 

[Trek]

SAP Doncaster


i am a fussy bugger and can honestly say i was pleased with their work , though still would have preferred to have fitted them myself on a supply only purchase

i had been looking for a second hand set but never seen any for sale there must be second ones somewhere !

 

[r4dent]

A dealer told me any extras on a motorhome don't add a single penny.

I suspect that would be a dealer giving a trade in price, rather than a dealer selling a fully loaded van

 

[Deleted member 155]

I suspect that would be a dealer giving a trade in price, rather than a dealer selling a fully loaded van

You would be surprised there really isn't any difference on a secondhand fully loaded van from a basic one .

 

[Jezport]

My cup of tea seems to taste the same if the van is level or sloped!

Yes but I drink mine from the cup not the saucer. I have EP leveling

 

[Jezport]

BTW I have full air and leveling fitted to my van, if anyone wants a demo Im based in Leeds. Just message me.

 

[Trek]

Noticed slight rusting around centre of foot pad on my jacks

not sure yet if its the pad or the bolt or washer that connects pad to stainless steel leg


only slight rust staining at the moment but surprised to see any after only a couple of weeks seems to be emanating out from pad centre hole which is why i am wondering if its a bolt or washer not the actual pad ?


anyone else noticed rusting on E&P pads

 

[Getting older]

We do have a few members who have them fitted, Wully had them fitted recently. I am currently negotiating a discount with SAP and hope to announce a 5% discount very soon.

Is the SAP 5% discount now agreed and in place ?