wildebus
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Temu could give the stuff away and I still wouldn't go there.Perhaps do some research before using Temu? I won't use them, but please make up your own mind. Here's a search I just did:
Temu could give the stuff away and I still wouldn't go there.Perhaps do some research before using Temu? I won't use them, but please make up your own mind. Here's a search I just did:
Politics are involved, so we can't be too explicit on this forum. That said, it seems that certain countries make use of subsidies where the 'developed world' pays postage costs for 'emerging nations' -- and certain governments have sufficient influence to ensure that they remain classified as 'emerging'. Hence their state-sponsored businesses get to massively undercut our own businesses because, in addition to alleged dodgy human rights, they get to ship to UK, USA, EU, Australia, etc. for next to nothing while our domestic businesses have to pay disproportionately high shipping charges -- ironically, charges that help subsidise shipping for their competition from the 'emerging world'. Then, since you cannot make use of subsidised shipping, it's likely to cost you more to return defective/unacceptable goods than you'll get back even assuming the vendor will actually reimburse you (hint: I got burned a few years ago over some camping chairs) -- and it's unlikely that Paypal or your credit card provider will help. There are also allegations that certain apps contain spyware/malware and that flooding UK, USA, EU, etc. with dirt cheap and state-subsidised product is a de-facto attack on our financial stability. However, as I wrote in post #40, please do your own research and act according to your own conscience...Can I ask why?
The info on that Daily Mail link is out of date BTW. VAT now gets charged in on-line market places such as AliExpress and the like; and the self-declared "developing country" that China used for the postage has now been mostly nullified. It was previously totally rediculous. Now it is only partly rediculous.Politics are involved, so we can't be too explicit on this forum. That said, it seems that certain countries make use of subsidies where the 'developed world' pays postage costs for 'emerging nations' -- and certain governments have sufficient influence to ensure that they remain classified as 'emerging'. Hence their state-sponsored businesses get to massively undercut our own businesses because, in addition to alleged dodgy human rights, they get to ship to UK, USA, EU, Australia, etc. for next to nothing while our domestic businesses have to pay disproportionately high shipping charges -- ironically, charges that help subsidise shipping for their competition from the 'emerging world'. Then, since you cannot make use of subsidised shipping, it's likely to cost you more to return defective/unacceptable goods than you'll get back even assuming the vendor will actually reimburse you (hint: I got burned a few years ago over some camping chairs) -- and it's unlikely that Paypal or your credit card provider will help. There are also allegations that certain apps contain spyware/malware and that flooding UK, USA, EU, etc. with dirt cheap and state-subsidised product is a de-facto attack on our financial stability. However, as I wrote in post #40, please do your own research and act according to your own conscience...
UK retailers angry as Chinese firms use loophole to ship cheap goods
British sellers say that subsidised postal rates and as well as a 20 per cent VAT exemption have fuelled the boom in Chinese online selling that is driving them out of business.www.dailymail.co.uk
Not in my experience, although it might be the case under the Sale of Goods Act 205 for UK companies or where a company has a UK subsidiary. It doesn't appear to be the case when the seller doesn't 'belong' in the UK and hence is not under UK jurisdiction. For that, when I got burned, Paypal sided with the sellers in insisting that I had to return what I'd received (some bags and not the camping chairs I'd ordered [it was a bait and switch scam]) to China at my expense (even if I did that, I had little doubt that they'd have photographs of a trashed version to claim they were received damaged and thus I wasn't going to get reimbursed). Worse, my credit card company said that I had received what I paid for with my credit card: viz. Paypal's services. Thus I lost over thirty quid and Paypal lost my custom...Also, if something is faulty, it is not the responsibility of the buyer to pay for shipping to return it, it is the seller. So what happens in effect usually is the seller will refund the payment and tell you do keep the item or throw it away.
They have definitely improved since I got mine then lolThe ones I've been looking at around the 30-40 quid mark have auto take off and auto landing plus one touch 'return to base' too. The only problem is trying to find out the weight of them as the sellers seem reluctant to say and I'd want one under 250gms.
I got one like that a few years ago and couldn't really fly it either, and I used to be a helicopter pilot! I did get a video with it as I crashed it into my van.I had the same thought about getting a cheap drone in case I didn't like it but that turned out a bad idea. I couldn't fly the thing, it was a decent bit of kit for the money and if you knew what you were doing it may have been good. Problem was you did everything. No auto takeoff, auto land, auto return or anything. Buying a cheap one may put you off because it is harder.
Of course, its a few years ago since I did it so the newer cheap ones may be a lot more manageable
Temu could give the stuff away and I still wouldn't go there.
The info on that Daily Mail link is out of date BTW. VAT now gets charged in on-line market places such as AliExpress and the like; and the self-declared "developing country" that China used for the postage has now been mostly nullified. It was previously totally rediculous. Now it is only partly rediculous.
Also, if something is faulty, it is not the responsibility of the buyer to pay for shipping to return it, it is the seller. So what happens in effect usually is the seller will refund the payment and tell you do keep the item or throw it away. Last instance of that was a pair of shoes ... I was offered 15% off, then 25% off, etc. In the end they gave me full refund and to give away the shoes or throw them away. Similiarly with the AllPowers Power Station.... Full Refund, no return required.
But as far as Temu goes .... very bad company in terms of human rights.
In one way I do something similar with AMAZON, but it is really very inconsequential....Interesting article on the Beeb today about Temu...
Questions raised over Temu cash 'giveaway' offer
Participants can get £50 - but must permanently consent to the retailer using their personal data.www.bbc.co.uk