E bikes in Portugal.

Common sense at last.
These big e scooters can do 40 mph on an incline especially with 2 hefty teenagers up.

They thunder quietly along the pavements, earpods in, oblivious to their surroundings.
No registration plates or insurance.
Very few under 20s walk anywhere, these days
 
The only thing I can find is that the same regulations apply as in the uk. The Portuguese authorities may be targeting those who choose to ignore the law and have machines that are not restricted to 25kph and a motor exceeding 250kw power. Such machines are subject to the same requirements as mopeds - insurance etc is required.
We have a problem with those irresponsible types here but nothing is done about it.
 
We saw loads this trip to France, and perhaps because we didn't do city's they were indeed quite quick, but they all we quite responsible, as were the cyclists and motor scooter riders.

I shall now wash my mouth out with soap and water.
 
Topmast said:
As from 20 June this year a lot of e bikes and e scooters in Portugal will be subject to compulsory third party insurance just be aware as the police love to impose fines.
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I think that third party liability is normally included in bike insurance, but I'm pretty sure our four e-bikes are not insured at all.
However, the house insurance does cover third party liability. It excludes claims related to motor vehicles, but e-bikes don't count as motor vehicles.
I suspect that most people live somewhere that has house insurance, but I'm not sure if tenants get third party liability cover by default. Landlords do!
 
It's a bit odd that they require insurance but not registration.
My e-bike doesn't need any sort of registration plate, but my tiny 249 grammes drone has to have the operator's ID emblazoned on it.
In years to come drones will be required to have a digital ID beacon.
 
The insurance requirement is likely to be 3rd party insurance as is required for any motorised vehicle, but for which electrically assisted bicycles which conform to the reulations are exempt. As I said in my earlier post, to conform to the EAPC regulations the bike must be restricted to 25kph and 250kw power
 
bartman said:
The insurance requirement is likely to be 3rd party insurance as is required for any motorised vehicle, but for which electrically assisted bicycles which conform to the reulations are exempt. As I said in my earlier post, to conform to the EAPC regulations the bike must be restricted to 25kph and 250kw power
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Was that a reply to my comment?
I was saying that all cycle insurance and most household insurance gives cover for third party liability, except when using a motor vehicle (which proper e-bikes are not).
Are you saying that the whole thing doesn't apply to what we consider legal e-bikes in the UK?
Lots of people in GB seem to get away with clearly illegal electric bicycles with impunity, but they are still 100% illegal.
 
Sharon the Cat said:
Many European countries allow Ebikes with a throttle, whereas ours must be pedal assist. Maybe the insurance legislation applies only to these?
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In the UK, throttle control (referred to as twist and go in the regs) is not allowed on bikes sold after 1st January 2016. Those sold before then have "grandfather rights" and are perfectly legal as long as they have the speed and power restrictions - our bikes fall into that category 😊.
The way I read the regs, the same applies in the EU.
 
Topmast said:
As from 20 June this year a lot of e bikes and e scooters in Portugal will be subject to compulsory third party insurance just be aware as the police love to impose fines.
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Nope. Regular 250w bikes and scooters with the legal speeds up to 25km/h do not require insurance. All other are illegal and can't be used.
 
Who in their right mind would not take out third party insurance I wonder.
It's so easy to make a mistake that could cost considerable harm to another or vehicle.
In my experience the cost is minimal, FECT in Europe charge 38 euros including recovery.
 
Eriba said:
Who in their right mind would not take out third party insurance I wonder.
It's so easy to make a mistake that could cost considerable harm to another or vehicle.
In my experience the cost is minimal, FECT in Europe charge 38 euros including recovery.
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I don't think it's normal to take out third party insurance for a pedal cycle, and given that a legal E-bike is limited to a similar (or in some cases much less) speed I don't think many, if any, do so.
 
I suspect many have witnessed bike Vs pedestrian, most times nothing happens. However when it does the consequences abroad will grab your attention.
Even an unintended scratch of a car can prove costly.
So I insure.
Given the minimal cost it seems to me prudent.
I would ask your home insurance if it covers third party risks out of the UK, mine did not.
 
Your absolutely correct. I read the cover inc territorial limits etc. Then asked if cover can be extended.
The answer was ambiguous, plus day limits were triggered etc.
So my decision was made
 
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