Fitting my led lights to an old Fiat ducato 2003

[Sonar]

After a hit and run in a car park
I have had to replace my rear lights

Had them a while now.
We’re intended for a boat trailer. By someone else but they were not suitable for them hence I got them.
Anyway

I soon realised there is nothing to fix them to.
As the bumper corners are hollow .

So I had to made some holders

I made a plug so as to make two mouldings to hold the new and quite thin led lights.

I had to do this as the old lights were deep …

Made out what ever I could find and all fixed together with a hot glue gun.
This will all end up in the bin so no loss there ..

The new led lights are bigger than the old lights .

So making a custom insert to hold the lights that can then be fitted to the bumper sections. And they will be fixed where the old lights are…with the flange inside of the cut out bumper section.

Start with making a mould. And then the two holders them selves.

Fitting them then will be a very easy job.

I will again be spraying the bumpers and side skirts again at a later date.

By the way in case one brakes or gets smashed I have another new set put away in the spares bin.

There are a few images of the moulding it’s rough but only has a single use.

Nothing is seen it’s just a cover and holder for the light.
Thats fitted behind the bumper corners..



Image 1 is the rough box and then I made the mould from it.



Image 2 and 3 gel coated the mould and then GRP laid up.



Image 4 the mould and the mouldings.



Image 5. Trimmed and painted mouldings



Image 6 LED lights fitted into the holders..



Images 7 / 8 / 9. Are where the mouldings and led lights are going to be fitted.



After cutting away the bumper the moulding flange is fixed to the bumper from the inside pop riveted into position and then filled and made ready for painting.



some wires that had to be renewed so the wiring is tidy and water sealed.



Also now noted there has to be a resister fitted to the indicators and thanks to the forum this has now been solved



Thankyou member Pudsy.



When the weather is ok I will complete the works and respray all the silver /grey inc wheel rims and the bumper .. already have everything required to do it all stored away in the shed….


Please note ….just to comply with the lighting regs….

If anyone is thinking about this type of lighting there must be an additional red reflector added. As these do not have one integrated within in the lens .

But and additional reflector then complies with the law and the mot.


I will update this when I have sprayed the bumper ….

 

[andyjanet]

Sorry to put a downer on this job , do the lights have a CE marking on them ?if not this would be an mot failure, lots of cheap Chinese led light units are not CE marked which mean they don’t meet our mot regulations , I had some really nice units I bolted straight into my golf and ended up putting them in the bin once they failed the mot

 

[Pudsey Bear]

Unlikely if they look okay and you don't point them out, just take it and say nowt.

 

[Sonar]

Sorry to put a downer on this job , do the lights have a CE marking on them ?if not this would be an mot failure, lots of cheap Chinese led light units are not CE marked which mean they don’t meet our mot regulations , I had some really nice units I bolted straight into my golf and ended up putting them in the bin once they failed the mot

Passed the mot this week and I had not finished the job you can see there fitted as the bumper has not yet been sprayed in .

Images to follow when I get to the re spraying stuff hopefully in a few weeks or so

 

[andyjanet]

Pudsey the fact the dont look original would make any mot tester inquisitive and it would only take a closer look for it to cause problems , just saying , its like a good majority of private number plates , yes you get away with moving letters around and puttind extra screws in painted black to make things look like a name , but if someone runs into your car and the registration number cant be read and they drive off its your insurance that goes up , and if the rear lights on a van are not upto standard and you run into the back of it whos insurance is going to increase because someone has an extra pair of chinese lights they fitted

 

[Pudsey Bear]

Pudsey the fact the dont look original would make any mot tester inquisitive and it would only take a closer look for it to cause problems , just saying , its like a good majority of private number plates , yes you get away with moving letters around and puttind extra screws in painted black to make things look like a name , but if someone runs into your car and the registration number cant be read and they drive off its your insurance that goes up , and if the rear lights on a van are not upto standard and you run into the back of it whos insurance is going to increase because someone has an extra pair of chinese lights they fitted

You may be right, but motorhome lights are probably not in most testers list of things to check, I would still take it and say nothing, if they work they will probably pass, they must include a reflector though, your other points are valid only again if checked.

 

[mistericeman]

Pudsey the fact the dont look original would make any mot tester inquisitive and it would only take a closer look for it to cause problems , just saying , its like a good majority of private number plates , yes you get away with moving letters around and puttind extra screws in painted black to make things look like a name , but if someone runs into your car and the registration number cant be read and they drive off its your insurance that goes up , and if the rear lights on a van are not upto standard and you run into the back of it whos insurance is going to increase because someone has an extra pair of chinese lights they fitted

Usually BOTH .....
it's a " No CLAIMS bonus "

not a no fault bonus ...

 

[Sonar]

Sorry to put a downer on this job , do the lights have a CE marking on them ?if not this would be an mot failure, lots of cheap Chinese led light units are not CE marked which mean they don’t meet our mot regulations , I had some really nice units I bolted straight into my golf and ended up putting them in the bin once they failed the mot

So far I have looked at a few vans and 2003 transits and none of the ones I have seen display a Ce mark.

So who’s to know without taking the lights to bits then only then you may see a ce marking.
My 2019 car has no visible ce marks so i am quite comfortable using these .

However a ce mark in some cases is just a sticker. And can also be downloaded on line.