For Sale: Folding e-Bike

wildebus

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For Sale here is a purpose-build Folding Electric Bike (rather than a standard bike with an add-on kit)

Reason for sale is we got the two bikes around 4 years ago, but OH (Linda) had an accident with her back a couple of years ago and while it is a lot better, it has affected her balance a bit and she is not happy with the idea of riding a bike and so it is going to sit there unused for ever more if we keep it :(
I am keeping MY bike, so we have one surplus bike to move on to an new owner :)

Pictures show 2 e-Bikes. They are identical except for the colour and I am showing them both as while it is strictly speaking Linda's RED Bike for sale, if someone wants the bike but would prefer the SILVER one, than that is ok - I will just change from the Silver to the Red (as said, identical bikes apart from colour).
IMG_20240829_111447_232 by David, on Flickr


These are the Wayfarer Pro-Rider Folding Bikes. They are nice e-Bikes with a folding frame and tilt-down handlebar stem which allows them to be packed away in a small MH garage say very easily. When I went to pick them up, I put both bikes in the boot of my Vauxhall Corsa with no problem whatsoever as an example.
They fold with a quick release mechanism and it is a matter of seconds to fold them down or put them up again with no effort and no tools involved. Could not be easier! Or you can leave them setup and put them on the Bike Rack just like any conventional bike (this is how I transport them). OPTIONS!

These bikes were made just before the regulations on twist-throttles came out. The newest eBikes HAVE to be pedalled for the electric motor assitance to work. Stop pedalling and the motor stops. However the Pro-Rider bikes we have come with the twist-throttle like on a motorbike! You just twist your left hand and you start - no pedalling needed if you don't want to. The front brake cuts the power, twisting the trottle turns it back on. It could not be easier to ride and you could do a complete journey without turning the pedals once!
Totally Brilliant for anyone with a bike of a knee injury or ailment where they want to ride a bike again but don't think they have the strength to start off. Here you can let the bike take the initial strain and just join in as and when you feel able or want to.
You can select the level of power from the Motor from three presets and there is a display that shows the amount of battery power left whle you are riding. (There is also a set of LEDs on the battery itself that shows the charge level so you can see if it needs a charge withiut having to put it on the bike). The battery is removable to make it lighter to pack away, and has a lock on it to stop it being removed without the key (the bike comes with 2 keys for the battery. Without the key, the battery cannot be turned on at all for extra security)

The bike comes with a rear rack as shown in the pictures and has a detachable "GIANT" small rear pannier set. Also has the mains Battery Charger and the Lithium-Ion Battery Pack. These Battery Packs are used in a few different bikes and can stil be brought brand-new today if you want to get a spare one for extra range. The battery that comes with the bike is still very good however, so no worries on that score as far as I can tell. I can also throw in a brand-new Cycle helmet if wanted.

Looking for £350 for the e-Bike. This could be for either the Red one OR the Silver one.

Some Photos ....
IMG_20240829_111405_001 by David, on Flickr

Folded Up
IMG_20240829_111720_521 by David, on Flickr

IMG_20240829_111756_092 by David, on Flickr

IMG_20240829_111734_424 by David, on Flickr

One Folded, one Setup
IMG_20240829_111746_703 by David, on Flickr


Motor Control and Battery Info
IMG_20240829_111921_280 by David, on Flickr

Gears (if Pedalling ;) )
IMG_20240829_111953_436 by David, on Flickr

Rear Rack
IMG_20240829_111421_674 by David, on Flickr

Panniers
IMG_20240829_111817_864 by David, on Flickr

Kick Stand
IMG_20240829_111439_856 by David, on Flickr

Battery and Mains Charger
IMG_20240829_111839_699 by David, on Flickr
 
Is it the 200w before the regs changed to 250w and pedal assist, may be handy to state which power it is, good luck with a sale.
 
trevskoda said:
Is it the 200w before the regs changed to 250w and pedal assist, may be handy to state which power it is, good luck with a sale.
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It is fast enough. Does that help? :)
 
runnach said:
For many it is not about speed, it’s about getting from A to B less knackered if using a traditional pedal power only by cycle. 😅
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Indeed. How many people would know - or care - if it were 200W or 250W motor?
When I bought the bikes it was not important, and dare I say irrelevant. Ease of use, accessibility, and weight is what matters.
 
Bit of additional information ....
The Battery is a 36V 10Ah Lithium-Ion Battery.
So in terms of capacity, to put it into context, it has a capacity of 360Wh, which is around the same as a 12V 30Ah Battery,
The battery charger is an auto-range voltage charger and will work anywhere between 100V-250V AC and the maximum current draw quoted is 1.8A.
Bearing in mind when putting out a given wattage, the maximum current is always pulled at the lowest voltage, so in the UK & Europe you can reckon on a current pull of under 0.8A AC. This means the MAXIMUM power the charger will pull is 180W, so well within the capability of smallish inverters.
When I just plugged it in to my Multiplus to charge the battery, the AC draw recorded was in fact under 100W. At this rate you would be able to recharge the battery from totally flat within 4 hours.
 
Still available.

However looking at the bikes has started to rekindle my desire to get back on the old bone shaker, so got a new (softer!) saddle for that plus some (slightly!) fatter tyres to make it (hopefully!) more comfortable to ride.

Probably be on Facebook marketplace or similar if not sold in next couple of weeks.
 
had a bit of a weird experience with the bike selling.
After eBay dropped their fees for private sellers, I put on eBay and had no response their until Sunday, when I had three different people messaging me asking about the bikes. not sure why nothing at all and then a flurry?
Anyway, one of the people came round yesterday, had a quick turn and bought the silver bike ('my' bike as opposed to the red 'her' bike).
I then went into the advert and edited it appropriately to indicate just the one - red - bike now for sale and a short time after the listing was removed for breaking eBay rules? (bear in mind it had been up there for a month or so and there was nothing dodgy in it).

The message said:
Only eligible sellers may list e-bikes, new e-bike batteries, e-bike chargers, and e-bike conversion kits in the UK marketplace. Also, used e-bike batteries are not allowed to be sold by any seller in the UK marketplace.

e-bikes, new e-bike batteries, e-bike chargers, and e-bike conversion kits may be sold only by sellers who meet the following requirements:
- Has an established history of active selling of for at least 90 days, with 100 or more transactions and £1,000 or more in sales in the last 12 months
- Maintains a track record of delivering positive buying experiences, including an account that is Above Standard or Top Rated
- Complies with all applicable laws, regulations, and eBay policies
- Has registered for eBay managed payments and verified their identity
- Has business seller status

I am guessing that they have decided in the last month that eBikes are not something that private sellers can sell? maybe too many traders listing eBikes pretending to be non-trade and eBay want their cut? Bit of a pain for anyone who wants to sell their old eBike as eBay is now out the picture and have to put up with Marketplace tyrekickers :(
 
wildebus said:
It is fast enough. Does that help? :)
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The reason i ask was because you dont have to pedal the 200w, but the 250 must be pedaled as no throtle alone is legal or allowed, just thought it may help, sorry i spoke, dog house again.
 
trevskoda said:
The reason i ask was because you dont have to pedal the 200w, but the 250 must be pedaled as no throtle alone is legal or allowed, just thought it may help, sorry i spoke, dog house again.
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Thing is Trev ... 200W, 250W.... they are just numbers and most people don't care. If the bike does the job, it is the right bike. I had three enquiries on Sunday and not one asked this question.
Give you an example ... the bloke who bought the bike yesterday... he didn't ask what power it was, he wanted a bike he didn't have to pedal to use and when he tried it, it did what he needed. And if he wanted to have a go at a bit of pedalling he could try, so a bonus. (medical issues meant it was a bike like this to get mobile or a mobility scooter for him and it is that situation where the fact that pedalless ebikes are no longer allowed to be made is so stupid. there is no genuine reason for that limitation.)
 
wildebus said:
Thing is Trev ... 200W, 250W.... they are just numbers and most people don't care. If the bike does the job, it is the right bike. I had three enquiries on Sunday and not one asked this question.
Give you an example ... the bloke who bought the bike yesterday... he didn't ask what power it was, he wanted a bike he didn't have to pedal to use and when he tried it, it did what he needed. And if he wanted to have a go at a bit of pedalling he could try, so a bonus. (medical issues meant it was a bike like this to get mobile or a mobility scooter for him and it is that situation where the fact that pedalless ebikes are no longer allowed to be made is so stupid. there is no genuine reason for that limitation.)
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Yes i dont see the point in having to pedal with 250w annd about 14mph, silly law.
 
trevskoda said:
Yes i dont see the point in having to pedal with 250w annd about 14mph, silly law.
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The law requiring e-bikes to be pedalled to get power to the motor came into force on 1st January 2016. A bike sold before that date could have a twist and go throttle and have a 250w motor, and are still legal today.
Our bikes are almost identical to those Wildebus is selling, bought in 2015 and have a 250w motor and throttle, so you don't have to pedal if you don't want to.
I am not aware that there was ever a limit of 200w for the motor.
 
bartman said:
The law requiring e-bikes to be pedalled to get power to the motor came into force on 1st January 2016. A bike sold before that date could have a twist and go throttle and have a 250w motor, and are still legal today.
Our bikes are almost identical to those Wildebus is selling, bought in 2015 and have a 250w motor and throttle, so you don't have to pedal if you don't want to.
I am not aware that there was ever a limit of 200w for the motor.
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They are very nice bikes. I guess mine are a similar age? Bought used in 2020 from a couple who decided to move from eBikes to getting a tow-car behind their motorhome.
They are not the coolest looking, but that also means less likely to attract the unwanted attention of thieves.

I had both up for sale in case somebody wanted a matching pair (One was definately surplus to requirements and needed to go).
If I sold both I was going to get a conversion kit for my conventional Ridgeback Horizon Touring bike, but after having a ride out on that with its so-skinny tyres and hard saddle, I am not so sure now!
I tried slightly wider tyres, but the front forks are too narrow to allow clearance and a new "comfort" saddle I fitted is only sightly more comfortable so if the other eBike doesn't sell I won't be too annoyed (and probably thankful!)
 
I have to say that if I was buying now I'd go for the full size wheel, the small wheels don't like the state of our roads. Our motohome is too small to have a garage at the back so they always go on the rack, and never get folded. I got a towball mounted rack, they're too heavy to go on the type that fix to the back.
 
bartman said:
I have to say that if I was buying now I'd go for the full size wheel, the small wheels don't like the state of our roads. Our motohome is too small to have a garage at the back so they always go on the rack, and never get folded. I got a towball mounted rack, they're too heavy to go on the type that fix to the back.
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I did put them on the wall mounted rack on the back myself - but generally only used to carry the one bike and removed the battery first to make it a bit lighter.
Now I had a Back Box on the Bike Rack, I won't be using it for the eBike as that would add too much on top of the back box and contents so like you would use a towbar mounted carrier instead.
 
I believe that though not legal you can buy NEW E-Bikes that with a little software adjustment can be ridden without pedalling, Phil demonstrated at least one on his YT channel.

I forget the channel name
 
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