Gas rings, not enough burning power to cook with a Wok?

[Ardachaidh]

...or this: https://www.gassaferegister.co.uk/media/1449/who-can-legally-work-on-a-gas-appliance-factsheet.pdf

There's a good reason for this requirement. Among others, incorrect combustion can cause death and unless you have a co detector you may not notice until it's too late.

AFAIK most motorhome burners are 1.5k max, otherwise a stand-alone solution may be needed.

 

[cronkle]

Could something like this be worth considering. It's similar to the one we have in out-put (I think) and the big burner works well with our 28cm wok.https://www.jacksonsleisure.com/car...o-argent-caravan-3-burner-hob-with-glass-lid/

 

[hairydog]

Might help to read this http://www.gb-gas.co.uk/gb-gas QuickReferenceGuide2010v2.pdf

I can't find any reference to "overchilling" in that. Did I miss it?

 

[hairydog]

The rings on a gas cooker are designed for a maximum diameter pan and too big a pan causes incorrect combustion. Take a look at this list https://www.flashcardmachine.com/incomplete-combustion.html.

Yes, that mentions it, but gives no sane explanation.
Even if a very cold pan could cool the flame enough to stop complete combustion, I think it would soon heat up and allow the flame to burn normally.
So far, I've seen more evidence of rainbow-coloured unicorns than of CO caused by flame chilling. And I'm not convinced that even grey-brown unicorns exist.

 

[Millie Master]

Could something like this be worth considering. It's similar to the one we have in out-put (I think) and the big burner works well with our 28cm wok.https://www.jacksonsleisure.com/car...o-argent-caravan-3-burner-hob-with-glass-lid/

No doubt it does, but the stupid problem with our hob is that all the burners are exactly the same size!

What I am now thinking of trying to do is to see if it is possible to fit the larger burner as on the one shown in the link above along with the associated larger jet.....If I can do it that way then I feel sure I will be able to safely achieve my objective.

 

[cronkle]

No doubt it does, but the stupid problem with our hob is that all the burners are exactly the same size!

What I am now thinking of trying to do is to see if it is possible to fit the larger burner as on the one shown in the link above along with the associated larger jet.....If I can do it that way then I feel sure I will be able to safely achieve my objective.

My hob came with a warning that pans and woks should not be used over a certain diameter on each of the burners. I took that to mean they would spread the flame and cause damage to the surrounds, particularly the plastic/rubber bits. That may be an issue for your as my three burners are arranged so that the big one has the largest hob area around it. My interpretation may not have been what they mean't but I still think it is a reasonable concern. Good luck finding a solution.

 

[Deleted member 409]

For similar reasons to above we bought a single electric induction hob (£40 from a Tefal outlet) which works well when cooking inside. In the summer we have a cadac safari chef connected to an external bbq point on which you can use the burner with a wok or griddle on the plate provided.

Me too! Can recommend it (outside only of course!) Maybe there is a legal/recommended output limit for gas burner size in a caravan/motorhome?
The Cadac puts out 1.8Kw of heat!

 

[HurricaneSmith]

I love my wife's stir fry with a wok at home, but she's never cooked one in our van as she says the stuff splashes everywhere, even using a splatter cover.

How do you folk manage please?
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[Millie Master]

I love my wife's stir fry with a wok at home, but she's never cooked one in our van as she says the stuff splashes everywhere, even using a splatter cover.

How do you folk manage please?
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If it splashes everywhere then surely there is far too much liquid in the wok.

wok cooking is all about exceptionally rapid searing heat that seals in all of the flavours and then when the food is almost ready for serving you add the liquid.

 

[HurricaneSmith]

That made me laugh.

As a bloke, my job is washing up.... only.

If Mrs HS is using too much liquid (I think you're right) there's no way I'm going to suggest it as I'd end up very hungry.

After over 45 years of marriage, she's taught me my place.

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[Rec]

I have the opposite problem with my lpg hob at home....it burns too hot supposed to be 4.5 (?) but I manage to sear everything to very dark brown! Getting it adjusted to be a bit lower which is very easy. Hope you find a solution....have you contacted the maker , maybe they can advise?

 

[Millie Master]

Hope you find a solution....have you contacted the maker , maybe they can advise?

Yes, I attempted to make contact with the manufacturer but it would appear that is nigh on impossible to do as they have a regular questions section along with answers and in almost every single case they suggest you get back in contact with your supplier!

My 'Millie' is a self built and I sourced all the kit and equipment from all points around the compass making sure that the prices quoted were the best and even the supplier had been a well regarded supplier such as Magnums, I know from past experience that all they would say is we will ask the manufacturer and so the wheel would keep on going round and round as it almost always does in the stupid modern world we are forced to live in these days!! And even if by some miracle or other I was actually able to make direct contact with someone at the manufacturers, I know they would only say is that it is performing correctly!

I think I had better go and sit in the corner with a large bottle of scotch and a straw

 

[cronkle]

I know at some time in the last few years I have been in contact with the Thetford organisation. I think this is the email address that I used, info@thetford.eu. It may still be of some use to you.

EDITED!

 

[Ardachaidh]

We use an induction hob too, bought from Lakeland Plastic. It has several pre-set cooking modes and will go up to 2000w. It will sear meat no bother. The only snag is you need a good electric supply on the maximum setting, so on a Spanish site with 6a we have to use a lower setting. And you need induction pans.

 

[Deleted member 3944]

I have found that a Coleman petrol stove is the ideal portable stir frying device as it is capable of giving out a lot of power.

 

[tiderus]

Hi Millie, Thirty odd years ago I've taken up the challenge of cooking a Chinese meal tasting as you get from the take a way's I've got the results that fit the bill. Firstly you must have plenty of heat. I helped fit our local shop out years ago, and noted that the hobs have 13 half inch diameter blowlamp jets, and the tops are water cooled. Its a must to cook fast to keep the food firm not mushy. Look at their onions and mushrooms, very lightly cooked fast. A wok is not important, any pan will do. (in spite of what you hear). So I have a builders burner to use outside only. This gives about 6 KW, which only just does the job. I gave a demo at Hereford a few of years ago which seemed to go down well. Every tv prog or video I've seen gives the wrong information. wrong cooker, oil, (as there is only one to get that lovely roast flavour). Sauce added to give it that special taste, And of course lots of heat that seals in the flavour. Then there's the rice additives which you need to give it flavour. (Its bland on its own). You may notice that meats are boiled first for some time. before adding to the pan. This softens them and is the basics of there clear soups. I recently gave a packed meal to a local caravan park manager. He's doing his best to get me to be his restaurant chef. Hope this is of help. Graham.

 

[Millie Master]

Firstly you must have plenty of heat. I helped fit our local shop out years ago, and noted that the hobs have 13 half inch diameter blowlamp jets, and the tops are water cooled. Its a must to cook fast to keep the food firm not mushy. Hope this is of help. Graham.

Graham, neither of us can stand mushy food which is why my ever so capable most beloved always sear cooks food on the highest heats possible which is why the hob I fitted to our van is so lacking.
Phil

 

[Deleted member 409]

Hi Millie, Thirty odd years ago I've taken up the challenge of cooking a Chinese meal tasting as you get from the take a way's I've got the results that fit the bill. Firstly you must have plenty of heat. I helped fit our local shop out years ago, and noted that the hobs have 13 half inch diameter blowlamp jets, and the tops are water cooled. Its a must to cook fast to keep the food firm not mushy. Look at their onions and mushrooms, very lightly cooked fast. A wok is not important, any pan will do. (in spite of what you hear). So I have a builders burner to use outside only. This gives about 6 KW, which only just does the job. I gave a demo at Hereford a few of years ago which seemed to go down well. Every tv prog or video I've seen gives the wrong information. wrong cooker, oil, (as there is only one to get that lovely roast flavour). Sauce added to give it that special taste, And of course lots of heat that seals in the flavour. Then there's the rice additives which you need to give it flavour. (Its bland on its own). You may notice that meats are boiled first for some time. before adding to the pan. This softens them and is the basics of there clear soups. I recently gave a packed meal to a local caravan park manager. He's doing his best to get me to be his restaurant chef. Hope this is of help. Graham.

"Builders burner"..is that the type they use to heat up bitumen Graham? That's a Great comment and, looking at videos inside a Chinese kitchen, I've always thought your normal Gas cooker at home hasn't enough whumpf to do an authentic Chicken Fried rice! You just confirmed that!

 

[jagmanx]

How about..
Using a largish flat pan which has a larger area nearer the gas to get hot(ter) and a larger hot area to sear the food as you want maybe do 2 searings before finishing by recombining and then adding liquid ? I think again the larger flat surface may assist.

 

[tiderus]

"Builders burner"..is that the type they use to heat up bitumen Graham? That's a Great comment and, looking at videos inside a Chinese kitchen, I've always thought your normal Gas cooker at home hasn't enough whumpf to do an authentic Chicken Fried rice! You just confirmed that!

Hi Cozican, just checked ebay. Plenty of LPG burners there. They have 6kw, 8kw, and 9 kw which would be my favourite. Don't forget to use only toasted sesame oil. That is normal sesame oil which has been heated till it smokes. This gives it that great nutty flavour, (Which you can smell a block away). and use oyster sauce diluted with stock or water, then add a small amount of potato flour. It gets away from the flour taste, more savoury.
Just tried a small bottle of toasted sesame oil from the Coop. £1,95, which wasn't half bad. Don't half pull a few people at the shows, better than a Bar-b-y. Hope this is of help. Graham.