How do YOU use your bus pass?

[nabsim]

We use park and ride in some places, so it'd be useful in towns that don't have P&R.

But do they work all over Kev? My Derbyshire Gold card which gave free travel doesn’t work for Stagecoach in Hull. Saying that the driver I asked said he would turn a blind eye and let me travel but shouldn’t

 

[trevskoda]

Dont you just love buses, not.

 

[Pudsey Bear]

But do they work all over Kev? My Derbyshire Gold card which gave free travel doesn’t work for Stagecoach in Hull. Saying that the driver I asked said he would turn a blind eye and let me travel but shouldn’t

Free off-peak travel on local bus services* in West Yorkshire from 0930 to midnight, Monday to Friday and all day at weekends and on public holidays.

Free travel on local bus services throughout England between 0930 and 2300, Monday to Friday, and all day at weekends and on public holidays.

 

[silverbeard]

Scotland actually tries to help it's citizens, England has a shortage of fecks to give.

IMHO they should be UK wide.

Yes 100% agree

 

[marchie]

Good points Steve but simple access to bus services would make a lot of sense the other facilities should based on council tax paid.

I'll agree to disagree with you, Kev

Steve

 

[Pudsey Bear]

I'd expect nothing less my old chum

I still think it's irrational though to not be UK wide and just let old folk travel for free on trains and buses.

 

[marchie]

I'd expect nothing less my old chum

I still think it's irrational though to not be UK wide and just let old folk travel for free on trains and buses.

Devolved government, Kev

Steve

 

[Pudsey Bear]

Devolved government, Kev

Steve

Of course, I understand why it is so on that level and I think it's great for people up there too and I think there should be differences, on access to libraries etc, it's the same done here.

But it's still part of the UK and it's essentially blocking me from travelling on Scottish/Welsh buses using my pass, I also think it's wrong that you can't travel on our buses with your pass too.

 

[marchie]

Of course, I understand why it is so on that level and I think it's great for people up there too and I think there should be differences, on access to libraries etc, it's the same done here.

But it's still part of the UK and it's essentially blocking me from travelling on Scottish/Welsh buses using my pass, I also think it's wrong that you can't travel on our buses with your pass too.

That's part of devolution, Kev, and in that context, 'part of UK' is irrelevant. Each devolved Government makes its own choices and policies [and mistakes!] on Devolved Matters and can moderate them as they see fit

Steve

 

[wildebus]

Different ages for entitlement as well as different features.

England-wide - 65+ I think? And looks like includes some train concessions?
Scotland - 60+. And no train concessions far as I know? Edinburgh issues include Trams. Do Glasgow issued include the "Clockwork Orange"?
London - 60+. Includes full Underround and Overground as well as buses I understand.

But it's still part of the UK and it's essentially blocking me from travelling on Scottish/Welsh buses using my pass, I also think it's wrong that you can't travel on our buses with your pass too.

My Scottish Borders Bus Pass allows me to take a bus to/from Carlisle and to/from Berwick, but only on services & Journeys that start or finish in Scotland.
I don't know if that is the same for other Scottish council issues passes?
Or if the same situation would work for an English pass holder on a service that crossed the border? I suspect not as I know someone who took a bus with her mother. She lives in the Borders and has a Scottish Pass. Her mother is over the border and has an English Pass. On a bus trip that crossed the border, she travelled for free, her mother had to pay.

 

[Pudsey Bear]

That's part of devolution, Kev, and in that context, 'part of UK' is irrelevant. Each devolved Government makes its own choices and policies [and mistakes!] on Devolved Matters and can moderate them as they see fit

Steve

As said Steve I get that, but it's not fair. it makes travel more difficult. Just because you can it doesn't make it right that you do, anyway, I'll leave it there I think.

 

[marchie]

Different ages for entitlement as well as different features.

England-wide - 65+ I think? And looks like includes some train concessions?
Scotland - 60+. And no train concessions far as I know? Edinburgh issues include Trams. Do Glasgow issued include the "Clockwork Orange"?
London - 60+. Includes full Underround and Overground as well as buses I understand.


My Scottish Borders Bus Pass allows me to take a bus to/from Carlisle and to/from Berwick, but only on services & Journeys that start or finish in Scotland.
I don't know if that is the same for other Scottish council issues passes?
Or if the same situation would work for an English pass holder on a service that crossed the border? I suspect not as I know someone who took a bus with her mother. She lives in the Borders and has a Scottish Pass. Her mother is over the border and has an English Pass. On a bus trip that crossed the border, she travelled for free, her mother had to pay.

Fife has a concessionary train fare, David, for travel within the Kingdom. We used it onc, about 5-6 years ago, but the Bus works well enough for us for local journeys

Steve

 

[El radge]

Of course, I understand why it is so on that level and I think it's great for people up there too and I think there should be differences, on access to libraries etc, it's the same done here.

But it's still part of the UK and it's essentially blocking me from travelling on Scottish/Welsh buses using my pass, I also think it's wrong that you can't travel on our buses with your pass too.

English people resident in Scotland obviously get this benefit . Basically it is down to who is paying for this service .
Of course Scottish/Welsh taxpayers subsidise these benefits
Like all freebies someone has to pay for it

 

[marchie]

English people resident in Scotland obviously get this benefit . Basically it is down to who is paying for this service .
Of course Scottish/Welsh taxpayers subsidise these benefits
Like all freebies someone has to pay for it

I'm both a Scottish resident and taxpayer, and I am eligible for a Scottish Bus Pass. General taxation in Scotland pays for the service, and there is no 'subsidy' beyond any social policy aimed at Merit Goods/Services where the costs are set at a level to maximise take up, beyond the level that a 'market price' would achieve. And, when we use our 'subsidised' Bus Pass, we purchase goods and services, paying VAT, generating economic activity that helps to provide employment which in turn enables those employees to make purchases that generate tax revenues; and so the cycle continues

Steve

 

[wildebus]

English people resident in Scotland obviously get this benefit . Basically it is down to who is paying for this service .
Of course Scottish/Welsh taxpayers subsidise these benefits
Like all freebies someone has to pay for it

What about the current subsidy in England for Bus Journeys? £2 per trip? Single trip from my Scottish village to town 5 miles away is £3.90.

 

[El radge]

I'm both a Scottish resident and taxpayer, and I am eligible for a Scottish Bus Pass. General taxation in Scotland pays for the service, and there is no 'subsidy' beyond any social policy aimed at Merit Goods/Services where the costs are set at a level to maximise take up, beyond the level that a 'market price' would achieve. And, when we use our 'subsidised' Bus Pass, we purchase goods and services, paying VAT, generating economic activity that helps to provide employment which in turn enables those employees to make purchases that generate tax revenues; and so the cycle continues

Steve

Clearly , as I said , the bus pass is subsidised [paid for] by the tax payer .
I'll leave it to others to work out if the rest of your post [highlighted] actually makes sense .
Basically I'm not sure I can be arssed

 

[Pudsey Bear]

There is a tourism aspect as well I think to take into accounts, also unless the bus is actually full there is only a negligible cost to allow all bus pass holders to travel anywhere in the UK, and of course it would be reciprocal.

 

[marchie]

Clearly , as I said , the bus pass is subsidised [paid for] by the tax payer .
I'll leave it to others to work out if the rest of your post [highlighted] actually makes sense .
Basically I'm not sure I can be arssed

Not awfully polite, or even spelled correctly ...

Steve

 

[Pudsey Bear]

I know it's a PITA but could we get back to how you use your pass?

You know, if it's not too much trouble like

 

[andromeda]

Locally or if away in the van if I can. Trouble is to get to a main shopping outlet it would take two buses so for big shop not. Keep meaning to go further afield.