I am thinking of selling my motorhome and doing a self build!

mr brown

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VW Alan has a fifth wheeler,quite a small lorry pulling , can't remember the make. i always fancied one, a crewcab tractor unit , could be as small as a transit, and a good long trailer. never got round to it ,but like the idea of leaving the trailer parked up while shopping in the puller
 

daygoboy

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VW Alan has a fifth wheeler,quite a small lorry pulling , can't remember the make. i always fancied one, a crewcab tractor unit , could be as small as a transit, and a good long trailer. never got round to it ,but like the idea of leaving the trailer parked up while shopping in the puller
Reasonable setup in theory, in practise I reckon not so. There's always the perception that
a small 5th wheeler is just a caravan pulled by a commercial vehicle instead of a car, and so
attracts most of the negatives that that implies. It's worth considering that the 'traveller'
community swap from caravan and car or van to M/Hs when they make an attempt to keep below
the radar, they rarely migrate to a 5th wheeler, at least as far as I've been able to observe.
 

wildebus

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VW Alan has a fifth wheeler,quite a small lorry pulling , can't remember the make. i always fancied one, a crewcab tractor unit , could be as small as a transit, and a good long trailer. never got round to it ,but like the idea of leaving the trailer parked up while shopping in the puller
Yup. And I recall from posts and questions about it, it sounded like a great setup which served/serves him very nicely.
 

Phil

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The choice of the base vehicle is one that I am still pondering.

A Fiat Ducato 35 Maxi H3 L4 makes the most sense, but in my heart, I would love to do a 4x4 Sprinter conversion. The problem with the Sprinter is that its internal height is not that great even on the high roof. Trying to find a LWB super high top 4X4 Sprinter would be very hard to do.

The height in the Ducato H3 is just over 7 feet compared with just under 6 feet in the Sprinter, This gives plenty of room for insulation and to still have a bit of headroom.

But the Sprinter will cost around £10,000 more than the Ducato .


 

The laird

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Phil ,hope you don’t mind me saying but the amount of miles and time you are in the vehicle would you not be requiring more space and comfort ,ie a bed you can just drop in ,a good shower ,an excellent mobile office as you have ,
He talk we had at Cumbria I was thinking a larger was what you were indicating ?
 

Phil

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Phil ,hope you don’t mind me saying but the amount of miles and time you are in the vehicle would you not be requiring more space and comfort ,ie a bed you can just drop in ,a good shower ,an excellent mobile office as you have ,
He talk we had at Cumbria I was thinking a larger was what you were indicating ?
Over the past few weeks, I have been looking closely at my life and deciding what I can change for the better. Having a project to build my own van will make me happy. I can make a van that really fits my needs whilst having a hobby to tinker with. Whenever I do something to the Hymer I must make sure that It is able to be put right and not devalue the motorhome. I love the idea of just painted MDF panels inside that I can be easily fixed with some wood filler and paint. I will have a fixed bed at the back and a large shower. I don't need sofas just three captains chairs and a table in the front. The kitchen will be simple as will the rest of the decor.
 

wildebus

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The choice of the base vehicle is one that I am still pondering.

A Fiat Ducato 35 Maxi H3 L4 makes the most sense, but in my heart, I would love to do a 4x4 Sprinter conversion. The problem with the Sprinter is that its internal height is not that great even on the high roof. Trying to find a LWB super high top 4X4 Sprinter would be very hard to do.

The height in the Ducato H3 is just over 7 feet compared with just under 6 feet in the Sprinter, This gives plenty of room for insulation and to still have a bit of headroom.

But the Sprinter will cost around £10,000 more than the Ducato .


Phil, the other aspect of the sprinter is the width. It is noticeably narrower than the Sevel Vans. I suspect that would be even more noticeable than the height after a short time....
 

mark61

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Standard high roof Sprinter is about 6'3'' internal height, yes, doubt there are many super high roof 4x4's
 

mr brown

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Over the past few weeks, I have been looking closely at my life and deciding what I can change for the better. Having a project to build my own van will make me happy. I can make a van that really fits my needs whilst having a hobby to tinker with. Whenever I do something to the Hymer I must make sure that It is able to be put right and not devalue the motorhome. I love the idea of just painted MDF panels inside that I can be easily fixed with some wood filler and paint. I will have a fixed bed at the back and a large shower. I don't need sofas just three captains chairs and a table in the front. The kitchen will be simple as will the rest of the decor.
you said the mdf word. i wouldn't advise using it-not good for your lung either
 

St3v3

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Having a big square box to work with is so nice, and the space in here would allow you to create something very comfortable.

Plus a massive roof lol.

I've now realised that mine isn't as big as the height makes it look :) It fits in 2 spaces.
 

trevskoda

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Still think a lib bus conversion is the way to go,lots of room and a fixed bed at rear,all sides squire so easy to panel out.

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debs

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Well Phil you've obviously got an itch that needs scratching, so go for it and I will most certainly look forward to seeing the progress which I hope you will keep us all informed. (y)
 

Mobilvetta

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We should all follow our dreams, I would go for it Phil, I presume you would still keep the Hymer, so that you could attend meets until you have finished your project. Good luck
 

Phil

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I did look at the MISU and it does have great potential, but it is a lot of work to sort out the sides.

One possible benefit of buying a LWB / XLWB Ducato is that the suspension on my Hymer can be swapped over onto it.
 

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