LPG cosumption

The laird

Rally Organiser

Messages
11,624
LPG cosumption

Getting van ready for next few weeks of away in van (weekends ) hopefully ,was very happy today I filled up before the last visit to the frog in Moffat .had the heating on a lot and even at the house when my grandson and myself were sitting in it had it on ,been away a few times day trips with the wife and mutt ,heating was on again (high I sh as snow etc)bottom line to fill up £7*49 if anyone questions initial costs for refill bottles this must put a good argument for initial outlay ,I’m very very pleased with consumption/fill costs,plus I can move to another van when it arrives .
 
I've found the same. My refillable system has now paid for itself. It's also so much easier than messing about changing bottles especially when the gas locker is very tight.
 
Agree a100% with you on this ,the difference getting a calor at £24 or more .clearing stuff out the way in locker and lifting in and out ,uncoupling regulator there aint no comparison,my only gripe is the level indicators appear to be pretty poor ,the type that clip on the neck ,I’ve tried two now with the same poor results
 
2cv;n24015 said:
. My refillable system has now paid for itself.
They told me mine would so I put it on credit, when the Bailiffs turned up and said I hadn't made a payment I said that I was told it would pay for itself



I will get my coat

TAXI



 
I will be serious now, I have been using a bulk tank in one form or another since 1992, my first one was an LPG tank from a car and it was liquid take off, I had to remove the valve and drill a hole in the pick up pipe (very carefully) to make it vapour take off, then we had a Ci Meridian which came with a factory fitted tank, the first thing I did when the warranty was out after 2yrs on the Hymer was to fit a 60ltr tank, that is nearly 25yrs saving money every time I buy gas, the convenience I have had would have been worth it but being a Yorkshireman the saving is a good bonus
 
Ours has paid for it self .total agree ..i just wish all the other stuff I have brought had .??
 
lee and i both filled up at the gas station on the spanish border just before entering portugal €0.689 let my gas consumption (i monitor on the calendar) has been first bottle ran out after 18days then i filled up after a further 9 day’s and filled 32.69ltrs for €22 60, my set up is 2 x 11kg. gaslo bottles had heating on 3 times on way through france and have been wilding/aires all the way no ehu so that’s about 75p a day running costs , but more comfortably from my point of view i know i only need to refill once a month with a weeks leeway and can plan accordingly
 
I have a couple of 11kg Gaslow bottles fitted and they have been one of my best buys.
I originally fitted a single Gaslow bottle with a 6kg Calor bottle as back up.
The cost, about five years ago, for a Gaslow bottle, refill kit and hose, bracket, filling kit and French adaptor came to around £200.
It took me, a total amateur, less than 2 hours to fit the system - with the filling bracket inside the Gas locker.
When it was fitted I then took it to a qualified Motorhome Gas engineer and he checked it over for free.
We now have two cylinders and each 11kg bottle holds about 21 kilos of gas and we've never had a problem when filling up despite the filler being in the locker.
We cook most nights with gas, have showers each day, the fridge runs on gas when we are on site, have around half a dozen brews each day, wash pots, pans and ourselves with gas heated hot water and when it's cold weather (most of the year) the heater runs on gas.
Many of you will use less gas than we do but what we spend on the gas is compensated by the fact that we rarely, if ever, pay for electricity especially when we're abroad.
We don't have to 'fight' for the last hook-up point or have to arrive early to get hooked-up but wherever we go we know that we will not be left high and dry without sufficient heating, hot water or a decent brew up.
We used a full Gaslow bottle in three weeks in March/April last year on the Dordogne, we rarely if ever go on hook up, and for a fill of just over cylinder it cost around €14 in France and with no electric costs seems a decent bargain to me.
There are other systems on the market but Gaslow works for us with no problems in five years.
No more lifting heavy bottles in and out, no more swearing when you trap your knuckles or drop the cylinder on your foot and we never run out – when one bottle empties we search for an Lpg/Gpl station in the next few days.
Many other people choose systems with lighter bottles because of payload worries and it comes down to ease of fitting, any good caravan or Motorhome dealer should be able to fit them, and how much or how little you're prepared to spend on a system.
And the best bit is – if you change Motorhomes or even (heaven forbid) sell up you can remove the system and get a reasonable price for it – recouping the vast majority of your initial outlay can't be a bad result.
With refillable cylinders, a couple of decent leisure batteries and a Solar panel you can go almost anywhere at any time of year without worrying and surely that's got to be a good thing not to have to worry when you're on holiday.


 
Totally agree with you on all points Keith ,we go wilding in the winter up here with heating normally on most of the time low during the to keep the chill away and the mutt likes to be snug ,last year no hook up heating on,meals cooked ,various brew ups,granted all lighting is led,charged a few phones and iPad .never a hint of low battery’s
120 solar 2x110 amp battery’s from alpha (great service as well)schaudt charger which floats between engine and leisure batts and as I said great to be trouble free
 
I opted for a single Gaslow 6kg system and using an existing 6kg Calor. I can use the Calor in emergency situations when no LPG stations. Based on 1.75 kg (allowing 1kg for heating) per day my pay back is 77 days. Us less gas and it is longer. In Spain in summer I use a 6kg bottle in 12 - 15 days.

gaslow1.jpg
 
How do I know Spanish garage has LPG pump? Is it gasole B at 80c ish a litre!!!
 
LPG refillable is no brainer if you have gas heating , would take year's to recoup cost if cooking only .
 
gosole B is often red diesel or less refined truck diesel lpg is normally autogas on the poi map they are in red capitals AG & there are several apps that list them nationwide or if you have the all the aires books there listed in there also
 
I seem to use a lot of gas on my van admittedly it is winter but we filled it up and it took 24 litres after 5 days. I have a 6000 water and air blown heater and a fridge freezer running on half setting. It does seem a lot of gas , there are no leaks and the difficulty of finding a foreign gas station was a bit worrying especially in the snow bits. is it the fridge that uses most, I think it is.
 
In the middle of winter using gas to cook, operate fridge, heating and separate gas water heater, we use between 15 and 18 litres a week. That’s with the heating on low overnight
Refillables are so much cheaper and easier to use than swapping bottles.
 
Summer only but using heating if it is cold.
(Scotland we were overnighting near Ullapool (Dundonnel) -5 deg at night !!)
Last summer both in Scotland and Ireland it was cold cold cold
As the man we met in Ireland on a nice warm sunny day said
"This is summer make the most of it" Next day cold again !
Fridge on gas as we very rarely use EHU. We often parkup for 2 or 3 days so Fridge does not use 12V
Max usage 1.2 litres a day based on long term usage and accurate logging.
Maybe turn off gas heating when you sleep
Maybe your motorhome has a larger airspace to heat.
In winter so fridge on low ?
 
Further to my post I believe "LPG filling" to be an inaccurate science as sometimes usage appears high other times low
I appreciate filling should stop at 80% but my experience leads me to believe that some LPG pumps fill to a higher pressure/capacity than others.
Thus sometimes maybe 85% other time 75%...
It may be dependent on the "Fullness of the Garage's LPG holding tank" Ambient temp etc etc

I do not know but I expect someone will !

As has been posted THE clipon gauges are next to useless.
I have a 2 tank system once one tank is MT I swap (manually) to the other tank. I aim to fill up within a week !
Suits us.. I know autoswap is preferred by many.
 
Last edited:
Fortunately for me the Hymer had a 60 litre bulk tank already fitted when I bought it.I'd never had a refillable system before and was a bit indifferent about it.Nearly 6 years later and I wouldn't be without it,if ever I get a new truck a refillable lpg system would be a must have accessory.Of course it's much cheaper than having exchange calor bottles but the biggest advantage for me is the convenience when in Europe.No messing around with different type bottles and another bonus is that it can be topped up when I come across a fuel station with an lpg pump,even when it's not empty.
 
For safety the R67 Gaslow approved filler valves automatically shut off the gas when the cylinder is 80% full preventing the dangers associated with overfilling.

But there must be a few valves that don't operate exactly on the 80% mark and they may be a few % either way of the figure they're supposed to stop at and that could be why there's a slight discrepancy.

I've said for many years the 'clip-on' gauges are as useful as a chocolate teapot but others argue I don't know what I'm doing with them and they swear that are reliable if you read them correctly – opinions vary.
 

Users who viewed this discussion (Total:0)

Back
Top