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This is one of the gotchas that make American and English two different languages with enough similarity that speakers of each can understand speakers of the other most of the time. As noted, a US ton is 2,000 lb while an imperial ton is 2,240 lb (14lb / stone; 2 stone / qtr; 4 qtr / cwt; 20 cwt / ton). US and imperial gallons also differ (1 imp gallon = 1.2 US gallons) and by extension, their pints are also smaller than ours! While we drive on the carriageway and walk on the pavement, they drive on the pavement and walk on the sidewalk. They call cars, automobiles; the wings of those cars they call fenders; what they call "hoods" we call bonnets. Boots are trunks, etc. etc.

While these differences might seem trivial, 'gotchas' await even where the same definition might at first sight seem to apply. Take "proprietary" as an example: Webster's defines this as, "of, relating to, or characteristic of an owner or title holder" and a UK definition is, "goods made up and sent out by the company whose name is on the product". Back in the 1990s, a company I worked for entered into a contract where certain items were to be of "proprietary supply" and each party 'understood' that to mean the other would provide those items. This only came to light when my company had manufactured most of the equipment and were still waiting for the customer to supply the proprietary items. Cost to my company was about US$1.4 million and a lot of good will... (thankfully, I wasn't involved in drafting that contract!)
That reminds me of some of the conference calls I was on with my US Counterparts .... There is a phrase that a lot of people would be familiar with .... to "put it on the table" when you want to discuss something?
Well, this is our (Brits) understanding of the term, but apparently in the US, it is more commonly understood it to mean to discuss it another time. So the exact opposite!
"Ok, let's put this next item on the table". "No, let's talk about now". "Huh? That's what I said!"

One of my guys was a Northerner and he would say "ok, time for a brew after this call". Our US colleagues would say they thought it a bit early for a Beer at 3PM :D

UK and USA .... Split by a common language :)
 
What gets me is when they put it in Feet and Inches. I know full well that 3.25m gives us a margin but cannot get my head round 10ft 8". Why don't we just go metric and be done with it.

We did decades ago!
We sorta did and sorta didn't. While we now buy groceries in kilos and grams, and buy spirits in cl, we still buy beer and cider in pints. While we buy road fuels in litres, we still measure distance travelled in miles, speed in mph and fuel consumption in mpg...
 
Just above the sun visor on our MH I have put the height, length, width and weight in both imperial and metric. I also us the CC SatNav where the details of the MH are entered. In 12 years have never had a problem regarding bridges or weight limits. Once I see the sign it's a quick look up (just like using the rear view mirror) and I know if all is good. Secondly if using SatNav - with up to date data - it takes us on a route comensurate with the size etc of the MH - simples!
 
Oh and another tip is to use a waterproof labelling machine for TP's and put a lable on each wheel arch - a ready reminder at the point of usage! Used to have them in the cab but due to sh**e memory ended up going back and fore!
 
It is but they don't do drills in thous, do they?
No idea these days, when I was an apprentice we used to have little conversion books in overall pocket and was a quick look to see what was needed.
 
I was an apprentice tool room fitter once upon a time, most boring job I ever had.
 
This is one of the gotchas that make American and English two different languages with enough similarity that speakers of each can understand speakers of the other most of the time. As noted, a US ton is 2,000 lb while an imperial ton is 2,240 lb (14lb / stone; 2 stone / qtr; 4 qtr / cwt; 20 cwt / ton). US and imperial gallons also differ (1 imp gallon = 1.2 US gallons) and by extension, their pints are also smaller than ours! While we drive on the carriageway and walk on the pavement, they drive on the pavement and walk on the sidewalk. They call cars, automobiles; the wings of those cars they call fenders; what they call "hoods" we call bonnets. Boots are trunks, etc. etc.

While these differences might seem trivial, 'gotchas' await even where the same definition might at first sight seem to apply. Take "proprietary" as an example: Webster's defines this as, "of, relating to, or characteristic of an owner or title holder" and a UK definition is, "goods made up and sent out by the company whose name is on the product". Back in the 1990s, a company I worked for entered into a contract where certain items were to be of "proprietary supply" and each party 'understood' that to mean the other would provide those items. This only came to light when my company had manufactured most of the equipment and were still waiting for the customer to supply the proprietary items. Cost to my company was about US$1.4 million and a lot of good will... (thankfully, I wasn't involved in drafting that contract!)
I reckon we generally haven't used the imperial ton weight measurement for a very long time now.
Decades ago we moved on to the metric tonne of 1000Kg or 2204.6 lb.
So now we have another area of possible confusion !!
 
I reckon we generally haven't used the imperial ton weight measurement for a very long time now.
Decades ago we moved on to the metric tonne of 1000Kg or 2204.6 lb.
So now we have another area of possible confusion !!
When I started at the quarry in 1977 we sold aggregates by the tonne back then. Sizes were a bit suspect though, 6mm/ quarter inch, 12mm/half inch etc. Sizing all used both Imperial and Metric by weight we sold by only metric. Probably because that's what the weigh bridge displayed I don't know but the sizes were still in use this millennium lol
 
I reckon we generally haven't used the imperial ton weight measurement for a very long time now.
Decades ago we moved on to the metric tonne of 1000Kg or 2204.6 lb.
So now we have another area of possible confusion !!
It's not only the imperial ton! (but at least the spelling of ton vs tonne differ). Prior to 1975, we used the long scale counting system. In 1975, the then Chancellor of the Exchequer (Dennis Healey) dictated that UK move to the US (short scale) system. Some of us didn't get the memo for decades (I was still using the long system until the early 2000s). Thankfully, none of the documentation I wrote needed those terms as I always used the convention "x * 10^y"!

To add to the confusion, most of Europe still uses the long scale system...
Here's the difference:
Power of 10
Short Scale
Long Scale
3​
Thousand​
Thousand​
6​
Million​
Million​
9​
Billion​
MIlliard​
12​
Trillion​
Billion​
15​
Quadrillion​
Billiard​
18​
Quintillion​
Trillion​
 
Hey!! steady on I left skool in 1965 and vowed never to get involved with maths again, and not really needed to.


So WHOOOOOSSSHHHH.
 

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