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I did not like Marsh. But he was very good.
Warne was simply brilliant and IMHO the best spin bowler ever.
Yes Muttiah M took more wickets but often on helpful pitches.
My World X1 is
A Cook
S Tendulkar
V Richards
D Bradman
R Ponting
G Sobers
A Gilchrist
S Warne
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Now hedging my bets so any 3 quicks from
G McGrath
J Anderson
C Ambrose
M Holding
Warne was simply brilliant and IMHO the best spin bowler ever.
Yes Muttiah M took more wickets but often on helpful pitches.
My World X1 is
A Cook
S Tendulkar
V Richards
D Bradman
R Ponting
G Sobers
A Gilchrist
S Warne
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Now hedging my bets so any 3 quicks from
G McGrath
J Anderson
C Ambrose
M Holding
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I love a cricket debate me 
No, no comparison for me. Botham every time. Always able to change a game with bat or ball. Opening bowler rather than a back up. Just as nasty as Flintoff if required.
This doesn't even include catches...
Flintoff: 3,845 runs @ 31.77
Flintoff: 226 wickets @ 32.78
Re: Knotty - better keeper than Stewart yes, but if I was going that way I'd have Bob Taylor every time as he was even better. So if going for a keeper who would bat then that's my rationale for Stewart.
No, no comparison for me. Botham every time. Always able to change a game with bat or ball. Opening bowler rather than a back up. Just as nasty as Flintoff if required.
This doesn't even include catches...
How England’s great all-rounders compare
Batting
Botham: 5,200 runs @ 33.54Flintoff: 3,845 runs @ 31.77
Bowling
Botham: 383 wickets @ 28.40Flintoff: 226 wickets @ 32.78
Re: Knotty - better keeper than Stewart yes, but if I was going that way I'd have Bob Taylor every time as he was even better. So if going for a keeper who would bat then that's my rationale for Stewart.
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Yes Botham it is !I love a cricket debate me
No, no comparison for me. Botham every time. Always able to change a game with bat or ball. Opening bowler rather than a back up. Just as nasty as Flintoff if required.
This doesn't even include catches...
How England’s great all-rounders compare
Batting
Botham: 5,200 runs @ 33.54
Flintoff: 3,845 runs @ 31.77
Bowling
Botham: 383 wickets @ 28.40
Flintoff: 226 wickets @ 32.78
Re: Knotty - better keeper than Stewart yes, but if I was going that way I'd have Bob Taylor every time as he was even better. So if going for a keeper who would bat then that's my rationale for Stewart.
Knotty was a very good wicketkeeper and almost a genuine batsman.
In India and pakistan he would often bat at no 4 as he was so good playing spin.
IMO Yes Bob Taylor even better 'keeper than Knotty but almost a rabbit !
I used to get quite cross when Taylor was picked ahead of Knotty
And also when Norman Gifford or Don Wilson were picked ahead of "Deadly" because they bowled more slowly
I agree Stewart was an excellent batsman who ket wicket very well..and there was no-one else.
He was a superb striker/timer of the ball as indeed was Ian Bell
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Ian Bell yes. Not forgetting Trott who sadly had his career cut short. Had he continued can you imagine how good he would have been at 3 for England??!!
I met Taylor once years ago at Lords after his playing days. Such an unassuming chap I didn't realise it was him until we had chatted for 10 mins!!
I remember Gifford but never saw Wilson.
I met Taylor once years ago at Lords after his playing days. Such an unassuming chap I didn't realise it was him until we had chatted for 10 mins!!
I remember Gifford but never saw Wilson.
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A silly story. But 1st
I used to watch Hampshire play at the County ground , Northlands rd Soton.
Derek Shackleton, Butch White, Roy Marshall, Henry H, Colin Ingleby-Mackenzie.
Wkt Leo Harrison.
The story.
When Hants played Glamorgan there were always piss-up.
After one such party at Mortimers (of Profumo and Christine Keiler notoriety)
Leo Harrison was 5Star hungover.
He was carried into the dressing rom and had his pads strapped on.
Shack was bowling with Harrison crouched behind the stumps.
Fist ball down the leg-side...He stirred not so 4 byes.
2nd ball a replay again not even a twitch from Harrison 4byes
3rd ball an edge going nearer 1st slip but a fantastic diving catch from Harrison.
All gathered round to congratulate him and he said.
"Yep not bad for first ball of the day !"
I also saw the Aussies play and had a photo of Bill Lawry.
Hants batted 1st, then Aussies were bowled out by Bob Cottam and followed on !
Ps when you could get tickets I would go to the Saturday of the Lords Test.
Did this for 4 or 5 Years .....must have been lucky cannot remember any rain interruptions
I used to watch Hampshire play at the County ground , Northlands rd Soton.
Derek Shackleton, Butch White, Roy Marshall, Henry H, Colin Ingleby-Mackenzie.
Wkt Leo Harrison.
The story.
When Hants played Glamorgan there were always piss-up.
After one such party at Mortimers (of Profumo and Christine Keiler notoriety)
Leo Harrison was 5Star hungover.
He was carried into the dressing rom and had his pads strapped on.
Shack was bowling with Harrison crouched behind the stumps.
Fist ball down the leg-side...He stirred not so 4 byes.
2nd ball a replay again not even a twitch from Harrison 4byes
3rd ball an edge going nearer 1st slip but a fantastic diving catch from Harrison.
All gathered round to congratulate him and he said.
"Yep not bad for first ball of the day !"
I also saw the Aussies play and had a photo of Bill Lawry.
Hants batted 1st, then Aussies were bowled out by Bob Cottam and followed on !
Ps when you could get tickets I would go to the Saturday of the Lords Test.
Did this for 4 or 5 Years .....must have been lucky cannot remember any rain interruptions
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Yes I was a big fan of Smithy...and Lamb too. Both SA'n and both nuggety! Chris Smith wasn't too bad either I thought.
I nearly put Boycott in to open in my X1 - not that I especially liked him but he was a miser at giving his wicket away. I saw Dolly play only once and that was after he had retired, in a charity match playing for the Sam Whitbread X1. I met Willis once at Lords and 2 things struck me: firstly, what a polite gentleman he was and secondly: that he was the tallest man in the world or seemed to be. I am 6' 1" and he towered over me.
I never saw Underwood but I did meet his niece once on a train.
I nearly put Boycott in to open in my X1 - not that I especially liked him but he was a miser at giving his wicket away. I saw Dolly play only once and that was after he had retired, in a charity match playing for the Sam Whitbread X1. I met Willis once at Lords and 2 things struck me: firstly, what a polite gentleman he was and secondly: that he was the tallest man in the world or seemed to be. I am 6' 1" and he towered over me.
I never saw Underwood but I did meet his niece once on a train.
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Bob Willis..An excellent cricketerYes I was a big fan of Smithy...and Lamb too. Both SA'n and both nuggety! Chris Smith wasn't too bad either I thought.
I nearly put Boycott in to open in my X1 - not that I especially liked him but he was a miser at giving his wicket away. I saw Dolly play only once and that was after he had retired, in a charity match playing for the Sam Whitbread X1. I met Willis once at Lords and 2 things struck me: firstly, what a polite gentleman he was and secondly: that he was the tallest man in the world or seemed to be. I am 6' 1" and he towered over me.
I never saw Underwood but I did meet his niece once on a train.
His spell to win the Headingly Match will take some beating for its controlled aggression, intensity and skill.
I watched it again recently. He was simply inspired. The concentration was immense.
Must be in the top 10 of match winning efforts .
Along with Stokes and Leach.(Definetely)
Caddick and Gough maybe
Yes Boycott was suitable stingy with his wicket....but like you I never warmed to him.
Both as a player and commentator !
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Yes Willis was inspirational. he also did it to Pakistan the following year didn't he? Was it an 8-fer?
Lovely man, again, sorely missed.
Being a bit biased I remember Simon Jones' spell in the 2005 ashes where he duffed up the Aussie top order. Venomous and hostile. But there are numerous others too and probably too many to call (remember Devon Malcom's 9-fer against SA...that was more than just cricket that I reckon).
Spot on with Sir Geoff: good at what he did but no warmth. I did enjoy his commentating though as he spoke his mind whether he was right or wrong (or never wrong in his mind!)
Lovely man, again, sorely missed.
Being a bit biased I remember Simon Jones' spell in the 2005 ashes where he duffed up the Aussie top order. Venomous and hostile. But there are numerous others too and probably too many to call (remember Devon Malcom's 9-fer against SA...that was more than just cricket that I reckon).
Spot on with Sir Geoff: good at what he did but no warmth. I did enjoy his commentating though as he spoke his mind whether he was right or wrong (or never wrong in his mind!)
