Too expensive

I couldn't see a shoulder mounting point. Are lab belts no longer legal on forward facing seats?
 
But there is nothing behind the backrest in further pictures David.
 
Yes, hard to see, but it looks substantial under the seat, but I see nothing for the shoulder strap to be secured to.
 
Pudsey Bear said:
But there is nothing behind the backrest in further pictures David.
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they go down the seat back and will anchor to the metal seat base, as El Radge suggests.

Same as the minibus seats that I took out in my Camper conversion. Each 3 point seatbelt secured to the seat base.
 
Not sure that would help in an accident, or if it is even legal.
 
Pudsey Bear said:
Not sure that would help in an accident, or if it is even legal.
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why? and why?
How safe is down to how well the seat is secured to the floor. In the photo I posted, the seatbelts are secured to the seat. And there are thousands and thousands of seats like that, all of which are type approved and tested and have to pass PSA testing.
On the VW T5 I had before that LT, that had 3-point seatbelts secured to the seats as well.
I think on quite a few A-Class motorhomes the seatbelts for the cab seats are secured to the seats and not the van directly.
 
I would need to see one of these thousands of seat David.

All shoulder belts I have seen require a shoulder height rigid fixing. I've had four vans with a similar dinette forward-facing seat, and they had seriously strong framework.
 
Google says:-

Forward-facing rear seats in a UK motorhome typically require a lap and diagonal three-point seatbelt for all passengers, especially for those in designated travel seats. The specific requirement depends on the motorhome's build date, with newer models (post-2006) generally having a blanket requirement for three-point belts on all designated forward-facing seats, while older models (pre-2006) may allow for two-point (lap) belts.


Key Regulations by Build Date
  • Motorhomes built after 2006:
    All designated forward-facing travel seats must have three-point lap and diagonal seatbelts.
 
I don't understand what point you are trying to make. The seats shown in the ebay advert have a diagonal belt. so do the ones in the photo I took of my own minibus.
Not my van for sale; no intention of buying it so not got that much interest in extending this discussion personally. I don't think there is an issue in the slightest, but if you think there is, so be it.
 
I have no idea how yours is contructed David, but the van in the link above has NOT got anu fastening for the upper part of the seat belt, how could that possibly restrain anyoen in a collision, it's belt will have ZERO tension, so it won't even act as a lap belt.

It maybe that is fastend to the structure below the seat, but I can't see how it would actually do anything to restrain a passenger, I'd not sit there.


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@Pudsey Bear
That seat base has standard inertia reel belts, not a problem themselves but the entire seat frame appears to be mounted on a box not directly to the floor, so that’s where there could be a potential safety issue depending on how the sub base is constructed and secured to the chassis.

It’s not a bad looking self build van as a four berth, the bed would be far too narrow for our liking, a single lead acid and feeble solar would struggle this time of year, the gas bottles too small for gas heating imho and my better half simply won’t tolerate fridges at floor level in such confined spaces so it would be a no no for us but probably ideal for a young family.

Clutch and gearbox could simply be because of how it was abused in it’s previous life or because it’s too heavy, a weighbridge will solve the latter!, V5 has the usual potential nightmare of missing info no revenue weight or emissions details so it could be plated over 3500kg and may be a problem in scam congestion zones
 
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