What do you keep in the vans fridge/freezer

marchie said:
No, David. We empty the fresh water when we get home, then a 20-30 litre partial fill for the start of the next trip, with the full fill up on site, running it down to 20-30 litres by the time of departure. Chemicals taste awful, and most of the water consumption involves boiling for coffee [but not then pouring it over me ... (n)], and, if we were camping/backpacking, we would be less pampered with our water consumption precautions!

Steve
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Just wondering. I use the recommended dose of Purisol (~30ml for my 80 litre tank) for each fill up. Not noticed any taste issues but I very rarely drink just plain water, be it from a tap or a bottle, so any flavour could have been masked.

PS. I don't know if you have one of these, but it is something to get to log info on the water consumption ... https://amzn.to/3O0UXgW.
On a serious note, I find it really useful so you know when you are nearly full rather than having the overflow pouring out (I have a quirk on my van where I can fill it to a certain point, but if I go beyond that, more overflows out than is going in. bit weird really).
 
We used to fill up 5 litre bottles at home, but I noticed after a while a green tinge inside the bottles so now we buy a pack of two litre bottles as and when and 500ml for just general hydration, water is so cheap it's not worth messing with it.
 
Pudsey Bear said:
We used to fill up 5 litre bottles at home, but I noticed after a while a green tinge inside the bottles so now we buy a pack of two litre bottles as and when and 500ml for just general hydration, water is so cheap it's not worth messing with it.
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make sure they are out the light to stop that :) (if you ever see those water cooler stations in offices, this is why they often have a big cover over the drop-in water bottle).
 
wildebus said:
Just wondering. I use the recommended dose of Purisol (~30ml for my 80 litre tank) for each fill up. Not noticed any taste issues but I very rarely drink just plain water, be it from a tap or a bottle, so any flavour could have been masked.

PS. I don't know if you have one of these, but it is something to get to log info on the water consumption ... https://amzn.to/3O0UXgW.
On a serious note, I find it really useful so you know when you are nearly full rather than having the overflow pouring out (I have a quirk on my van where I can fill it to a certain point, but if I go beyond that, more overflows out than is going in. bit weird really).
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The Water Tank is inside the EHU Cupboard [part of the Winter Protection set up], David, so we have to be VERY careful not to overfill, because there is no proper overflow provision, and water and chipboard do not happy bedfellows make!]. The water level can be viewed through the refill opening, so a 'steady as she goes' final slow 5 Litres is advisable [better than 5 minutes with chamois leather and sponge mopping up!]

Steve
 
marchie said:
The Water Tank is inside the EHU Cupboard [part of the Winter Protection set up], David, so we have to be VERY careful not to overfill, because there is no proper overflow provision, and water and chipboard do not happy bedfellows make!]. The water level can be viewed through the refill opening, so a 'steady as she goes' final slow 5 Litres is advisable [better than 5 minutes with chamois leather and sponge mopping up!]

Steve
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Don't you have an overflow ? I fill ours till it comes out underneath. Sorry just read your post again and you do not have one
 
I just do normal shops and keep everything I normally used topped up. Only need to shop every two weeks so if I am heading back to the house for more than a couple of days I just let it run down and take out anything that may go off before I go again.

It would be other way round for me, what would I leave in the house if Caz didn’t stay there lol
 
Our freezer section was used exclusively for the dog food we needed. Up to 6 dogs get through a lot of food in a week. :giggle:
 
wildebus said:
Howev r, Roaming Rog uses a little electronic water tester to check quality on the PPM basis on the water from his Autotrail tank. Under 300 is safe (and distilled would be 0 ppm)
I borrowed it and tested my "Scottish Mountain Water" (from Morrisons) - 175 ppm; I then tested my "Kirkland Mineral Water" (from Costco in Sept 2021 so all the plastic leaching!!! ;) ) - 125 ppm;
I then tested my tank water, filled from my home tap 2 days earlier ... 75 ppm. The tank water was actually the purest of all three!
I bought the same tester and checked my home water direct from the tap and it was the same at 75 ppm.
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PPM of what?
Surely mineral water would have more PPM of SOMETHING than tap water? The clue is in the name! ;)

Gordon
 
Norfolk NewBoy said:
PPM of what?
Surely mineral water would have more PPM of SOMETHING than tap water? The clue is in the name! ;)

Gordon
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ask the makers of the tester. look it up on the internet. why ask me :)
 
Norfolk NewBoy said:
PPM of what?
Surely mineral water would have more PPM of SOMETHING than tap water? The clue is in the name! ;)

Gordon
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total dissolved solids (TDS) represents the combined total of all organic and inorganic substances found in drinking water. The total dissolved solids present in water is one of the leading causes of particles and sediments in drinking water, which give water its color, odor, and flavor, and can be a general indicator of water quality
parts per million (ppm)
 
'Bubbled through calcium based rock and lava stone and other porous geological layers for over 7 million years before breaking the surface at our natural Spring. Best Before Oct 2023' :rolleyes:

Steve
 
Norfolk NewBoy said:
Because you posted the figures about your various water supplies!
I assumed that you knew what you were writing about: please excuse my error.

Gordon
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I do. I know the PPMs in them :) .
Best place for more info is doing a search ;)
 
wildebus said:
I do. I know the PPMs in them :) .
Best place for more info is doing a search ;)
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So as I suggested previously, you know HOW MUCH stuff you've got in your water but you don't know what the STUFF is! o_O
To my mind, that makes you akin to an ACCOUNTANT: someone who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.

Let's see if I can help?

@Greengrass stated that it was TDS: total dissolved solids. The figures given by your advert are in accord with the Wikipedia values so let's accept that as solved?
en.wikipedia.org

Total dissolved solids - Wikipedia

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These have come from the water flowing past rocks such as limestone (calcium carbonate), perhaps creating caves as the ions dissolve into the water, making it "hard" ie hard to produce a lather when shaken with soap. This accounts for kettles furring up as well as stalactites and stalagmites.

When your tap water is poured into your plastic tank, there are virtually no materials to dissolve, so your two readings are the same (y).
@marchie expressed surprise that mineral water has a Best Before Date. Look at any sauce bottle in your fridge: my Salad Cream says "Store in a cool dry place. BBE November 2024" BUT it also says "Once opened keep in a fridge and consume within 4 weeks." That is because the product is sterilised in the factory but once I break the seal microbes can enter; keeping things cool is a method of reducing their reproduction rate and safeguarding my health. The mineral water is similar: underground it was "clean" but at the bottling plant it picks up micro-organisms and you let them multiply at your peril.

Sad to say, bacteria, amoeba, etc do not classify as dissolved solids and so are not detected by your device. Our fresh water tanks are breeding grounds for all sorts of nasties and it's only the application of sterilisation chemicals which is likely to protect us. Please don't use pseudo-science to imagine that you are safe!

TBH, I wash my fruit and veg AND my tooth brush in water from my tank: I don't drink it except in an emergency. I'm probably taking risks with microbial infections BUT I'm not confusing two very different definitions of "purity" :).

Gordon

Apologies to any accountants: my son-in-law and many friends have earned their living in that profession :whistle:
 
Norfolk NewBoy said:
So as I suggested previously, you know HOW MUCH stuff you've got in your water but you don't know what the STUFF is! o_O
To my mind, that makes you akin to an ACCOUNTANT: someone who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.

Let's see if I can help?

@Greengrass stated that it was TDS: total dissolved solids. The figures given by your advert are in accord with the Wikipedia values so let's accept that as solved?
en.wikipedia.org

Total dissolved solids - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

These have come from the water flowing past rocks such as limestone (calcium carbonate), perhaps creating caves as the ions dissolve into the water, making it "hard" ie hard to produce a lather when shaken with soap. This accounts for kettles furring up as well as stalactites and stalagmites.

When your tap water is poured into your plastic tank, there are virtually no materials to dissolve, so your two readings are the same (y).
@marchie expressed surprise that mineral water has a Best Before Date. Look at any sauce bottle in your fridge: my Salad Cream says "Store in a :ROFLMAO: cool dry place. BBE November 2024" BUT it also says "Once opened keep in a fridge and consume within 4 weeks." That is because the product is sterilised in the factory but once I break the seal microbes can enter; keeping things cool is a method of reducing their reproduction rate and safeguarding my health. The mineral water is similar: underground it was "clean" but at the bottling plant it picks up micro-organisms and you let them multiply at your peril.

Sad to say, bacteria, amoeba, etc do not classify as dissolved solids and so are not detected by your device. Our fresh water tanks are breeding grounds for all sorts of nasties and it's only the application of sterilisation chemicals which is likely to protect us. Please don't use pseudo-science to imagine that you are safe!

TBH, I wash my fruit and veg AND my tooth brush in water from my tank: I don't drink it except in an emergency. I'm probably taking risks with microbial infections BUT I'm not confusing two very different definitions of "purity" :).

Gordon

Apologies to any accountants: my son-in-law and many friends have earned their living in that profession :whistle:
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Marchie was recycling a very old joke about the x million years old water bubbled through porous rock in a bottle marked 'Best Before Nov 2024' ... :ROFLMAO:. Bit of a 'Woosh' moment, or goldy, silvery. bronzy, aka irony [nicked from Blackadder]

Steve
 
most of our touring is in Europe if its summer we take enough salad etc etc to get us over the first week then we buy fresh . we also take cheese cheddar/Lancashire plus 16 bacon /12 ribeye steak ( hard to find abroad ) with as longest date possible bacon 4 weeks steak 2 weeks then near use by date out of package into the freezer its surprising how much package you are left with more than the meat/bacon & that's for our 3 months trips .cheyenne
 
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