Wild camping or off grid

[Sonar]

Wild camping or off grid are they the same if your in a motorhome that’s not on an approved site.

 

[Exwindsurfer]

Yes

 

[Pudsey Bear]

For the vast majority, it is impossible to go "off grid" or truly "wild camp".

 

[Sonar]

We can go off grid as long as it takes to fill two toilet cassettes then we have to find somewhere to go to empty them out .
There is always an overnight on a site somewhere just to refresh.

Solar panels. X 4. And the lithium battery’s Its easy for a week or just over
Water 100 ltrs. Waste water 90 ltrs.

So we’re restricted to however long it takes to fill the toilets…

 

[Obanboy666]

Wild camping imho is in a tent in the back of beyond, not in an all singing and dancing motorhome. Off grid sounds about right for what we do.

 

[Pudsey Bear]

to be really off grid, you need to leave the phone behind and for many, that's a step too far into the wild.

 

[TJBi]

We can go off grid as long as it takes to fill two toilet cassettes then we have to find somewhere to go to empty them out .
There is always an overnight on a site somewhere just to refresh.

Solar panels. X 4. And the lithium battery’s Its easy for a week or just over
Water 100 ltrs. Waste water 90 ltrs.

So we’re restricted to however long it takes to fill the toilets…

Surprised that with solar x 4 and LiFePo4 batteries you can only manage just over a week. With solar 100W x 2 and 2 x 100Ah AGM, I was doing 2 months at a time and never any EHU before or after the trips.

 

[Pauljenny]

Surprised that with solar x 4 and LiFePo4 batteries you can only manage just over a week. With solar 100W x 2 and 2 x 100Ah AGM, I was doing 2 months at a time and never any EHU before or after the trips.

That depends on wether you're in the South of Spain or Northern Scotland.
In the shade or in the full sun.
In 20 years of long terming, mainly wild camping, we managed with only 40 watts of solar

No telly helped.

 

[Pudsey Bear]

We only have 85w and no issues.

 

[Rec]

Wild camping/ off grid reminds me of the motorhome/ campervan debate

 

[mistericeman]

Power wise in summer weve never run out of power even after 4 weeks away in the UK ....

400w of solar and 3 x 100ah agm

Even with the telly and mains fridge/inverter and using the 12v compressor cool box as a freezer
Phone charging etc etc

Limiting factor is usually toilet capacity/Water for showers ...
though hopefully that should improve when I get around to fitting a dry seperating toilet.

 

[nabsim]

to be really off grid, you need to leave the phone behind and for many, that's a step too far into the wild.

And your transport.

Most folks know what is meant by wild camping or off grid in a vehicle though

 

[Pudsey Bear]

And your transport.

Most folks know what is meant by wild camping or off grid in a vehicle though

I fully accept that Neil but it's a misnomer, this country isn't big enough for real wild camping, even the Sea is never more than 70 miles away.

We need a better word, such as remote, isolated, or maybe off the beaten track, we used to love driving into forests in Scotland for a night or two, the forest rangers used to chat with us and never gave us any bother, we'd often give them a cup of tee and a slice of cake (Aunt Sally) but they all have gates on them now due to irresponsible folk.

 

[El radge]

We only have 85w and no issues.

Are they with their granny ?

 

[nabsim]

I fully accept that Neil but it's a misnomer, this country isn't big enough for real wild camping, even the Sea is never more than 70 miles away.

We need a better word, such as remote, isolated, or maybe off the beaten track, we used to love driving into forests in Scotland for a night or two, the forest rangers used to chat with us and never gave us any bother, we'd often give them a cup of tee and a slice of cake (Aunt Sally) but they all have gates on them now due to irresponsible folk.

There are just so many vans on the road now Kev and getting more every day. It’s not just here that wild camping is supposedly not allowed, it’s the same for a lot of Europe, just you don’t get it enforced very often or folks don’t post about it, not sure which. You are supposed to use aires/stelplaz or campsites.

Everywhere here and Europe is feeling the effects of more vans, communities are just going to have to address the issue properly at some point but who knows how far off that is.

I don’t care what it’s called, I want to stop I stop, I am rarely in towns though, usually out in the sticks unless getting provisions and I can go weeks no bother

 

[Pudsey Bear]

There are just so many vans on the road now Kev and getting more every day. It’s not just here that wild camping is supposedly not allowed, it’s the same for a lot of Europe, just you don’t get it enforced very often or folks don’t post about it, not sure which. You are supposed to use aires/stelplaz or campsites.

Everywhere here and Europe is feeling the effects of more vans, communities are just going to have to address the issue properly at some point but who knows how far off that is.

I don’t care what it’s called, I want to stop I stop, I am rarely in towns though, usually out in the sticks unless getting provisions and I can go weeks no bother

Yup, too right we do the same, obviously out of site or at least out of the way, I did feck up once in France, we parked in a layby next to a fishing lake on a Friday night and some Tw@ decided to block me in which he did very successfully (my fault for being courteous and parking right at the end of the layby to leave room for others) but he got ridiculed by his opponents for being a prat.

 

[Sonar]

Surprised that with solar x 4 and LiFePo4 batteries you can only manage just over a week. With solar 100W x 2 and 2 x 100Ah AGM, I was doing 2 months at a time and never any EHU before or after the trips.

Restricted by the toilet cassettes.
We only dispose of the toilet waste in the proper places. There are none where we sometimes go in the middle of the moors.

Power has in the past and never will be an issue .
Water food gas ect Just the toilet.

 

[Rumour]

None of the definitions or "Camping" r W
"wild camping" mention sleeping in a vehicle. Off grid is much more applicable. When we wild camped, it was with a backpack and a small tent in the middle of nowhere. Tramping across the moors until we found a sheltered spot to either pitch our tent, of if we were feeling brave, making a shelter out of whatever was laying on the ground.

A motorhome or converted van with the (albeit less) comforts of home is hardly wild camping. Not really keen on off grid, although it is more like what we do, there must be a better, more descriptive word. (No! Not "boondocking". That is just plain silly!)

 

[TOMMYSUE]

Wild camping or off grid are they the same if your in a motorhome that’s not on an approved site.

The term "Wild Camping " doesn't apply to motorhomes.Its for campers, traditionally hikers, campers with backpacks, tents, etc. We of grid in our motorhome which means we're not using mains electricity, water, and sewage

 

[Pudsey Bear]

Off site might be better as that is at least accurate, off grid is fine if you actually leave all the phones etc at home, boondocking is Merican, and wild is a misnomer as you need a road to get there in anything less than a big overlander which few of us have.