Wild camping or off grid

None of the definitions or "Camping" r W
"wild camping" mention sleeping in a vehicle. Off grid is much more applicable. When we wild camped, it was with a backpack and a small tent in the middle of nowhere. Tramping across the moors until we found a sheltered spot to either pitch our tent, of if we were feeling brave, making a shelter out of whatever was laying on the ground.

A motorhome or converted van with the (albeit less) comforts of home is hardly wild camping. Not really keen on off grid, although it is more like what we do, there must be a better, more descriptive word. (No! Not "boondocking". That is just plain silly!)
There is, it’s wild parking 😂😂
 
Off site might be better as that is at least accurate, off grid is fine if you actually leave all the phones etc at home, boondocking is Merican, and wild is a misnomer as you need a road to get there in anything less than a big overlander which few of us have.
Wild would definitely describe a lot of the places I stop at Kev, never mind the people 😂😂😂
 
It's definitely not as easy as it once was, first year in the van we made the effort to find our own places each day, (not on WC then) noting ones we passed for later trips, we got over a hundred in two weeks, more than half of them are either overrun or gated now.
 
It's definitely not as easy as it once was, first year in the van we made the effort to find our own places each day, (not on WC then) noting ones we passed for later trips, we got over a hundred in two weeks, more than half of them are either overrun or gated now.
Even campsites dont want you. :eek: 😂bears.jpg
 
a barrister in the recent moors case where the land owner argued against wild camping used an argument that if a tent was on a fully serviced camp site it wasn’t wild camping therefore it is the lack of facilities rather than the trappings that define wild camping
 
In general informal chat, they're the same thing, as are many other phrases eg freedom camping, off-site parking etc.
But when it comes to relying on any rights we may have, they're different.
a barrister in the recent moors case where the land owner argued against wild camping used an argument that if a tent was on a fully serviced camp site it wasn’t wild camping therefore it is the lack of facilities rather than the trappings that define wild camping
Different legislation/ different definition in England & Scotland (I don't know about Northern Ireland or Wales).
AFAIK English law doesn't actually have a definition.
In Scotland, wild camping is restricted to access by foot, bicycle, horse, or water. It's about remote, small-scale, short-term tent (or bivvi) camping. Arriving in a vehicle is specifically excluded from the definition.
 

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