Water pumps

[andromeda]

On another motorhome forum which I read occasionally someone told a newbie that they should always carry a spare water pump. Not something I've heard before. What is everybodys opinion? Am I remiss or is he winding up an innocent?

 

[Tezza33]

If you carried every spare part that you might need you would be seriously over weight, if your water pump packs up all you will lose is not getting water to the taps or toilet, both can be overcome with a bottle of water until you get a new pump

 

[Greengrass]

If you carried every spare part that you might need you would be seriously over weight, if your water pump packs up all you will lose is not getting water to the taps or toilet, both can be overcome with a bottle of water until you get a new pump

I will go with Tezza save me writing it all out

 

[SimonM]

I carry a spare fuel filter unit as I’ve know several instances of the UFI plastic unit failing.

 

[SimonM]

On another motorhome forum which I read occasionally someone told a newbie that they should always carry a spare water pump. Not something I've heard before. What is everybodys opinion? Am I remiss or is he winding up an innocent?

Another question would be which water pump? Habitation water, engine coolant water or windscreen washer?

 

[Scotia]

On another motorhome forum which I read occasionally someone told a newbie that they should always carry a spare water pump. Not something I've heard before. What is everybodys opinion? Am I remiss or is he winding up an innocent?

I have heard that on the Dethleffs forum that they are only getting two years out of the pumps and carry a spare. Have even seen someone asking what model so they can carry the same pump. My thought was why fit the same pump if they fail after two years? I purchased a Reich twin submersible pump with non return valve which gives 19l per minute from leisure shop direct which was the cheapest supplier that I found.

 

[wildebus]

Another question would be which water pump? Habitation water, engine coolant water or windscreen washer?

Hab water pump - makes sense.
Windscreen Washer pump - have to be pretty paranoid to carry that
Engine Water Pump - ned to have a big tool kit and a lot of knowledge plus a touch of paranoia to bother carrying one of those AND be able to fit it

I carry a spare fuel filter unit as I’ve know several instances of the UFI plastic unit failing.

I've been meaning to do that since mine leaked a month or so after fitting (it was fitted badly. garage came out and swapped it over. At their cost after a bit of pushback from me)

On another motorhome forum which I read occasionally someone told a newbie that they should always carry a spare water pump. Not something I've heard before. What is everybodys opinion? Am I remiss or is he winding up an innocent?

I suppose those who had a failure for something are worried the same fault will reoccur or will happen to others? I replaced my pump earlier this year and it was in my mind to keep the old one in the van as a precaution (the old one is 90% ok so could be used if needs must). Right now it is in the shed and I'll keep it, but probably not carry it around (Tezza33s logic).

 

[TeamRienza]

I am another who carries a habitation water pump. A Reich twin submersible 19 litre/pm. I have had one fail in 7 years, but being a twin it continues to work at a reduced rate. I replaced it and also carry a spare as it is easily accessed through a large inspection hatch and a cheap and easy replacement.
When away for periods of up to eight weeks I would rather be able to rely on water being easily ‘on tap’. If the hob works, then I can cook and wash etc. All other appliances such as fridge and Truma are less important and can wait until I am home. I suspect repairs on these could be more problematic and expensive.
Anything on the Fiat side will need a garage fix as engines are too complex and inaccessible for my level of skill.
Apart from spare bulbs, fuses and small stuff, the water pump is the only spare part of significance that I carry.

Davy

 

[marchie]

On another motorhome forum which I read occasionally someone told a newbie that they shom/home to refill Wateruld always carry a spare water pump. Not something I've heard before. What is everybodys opinion? Am I remiss or is he winding up an innocent?

I'm sure GMJ always carries a spare Water Pump, so not a wind up!

I also have a Reich 19l submersible Water Pump that I use to drop into a 25 ltr Water Tank Top Up Jerry Can. I wired an on/off switch and attached 4m of cable with a Heike [?] socket that plugs into the TV socket. Saves moving the M/home when water top up needed!

Steve

 

[HurricaneSmith]

Over many years I've never bothered with a spare water pump.

Then about five years ago in my previous van, the pump became noisy, and so simply replaced it with a new one, and carried the noisy one as a spare.

 

[Pudsey Bear]

With Google a hab pump is not going to be an issue to get, any decent caravan dealer will carry Fiamma and or Shurflo and with battered eyelids might even fit it, easy job if accessible.or buy one as they're cheap, small and light so no biggy, and watch a video on how to fit one, on most a screwdriver is all you need and maybe pliers/grips.

 

[SimonM]

Hab water pump - makes sense.
Windscreen Washer pump - have to be pretty paranoid to carry that
Engine Water Pump - ned to have a big tool kit and a lot of knowledge plus a touch of paranoia to bother carrying one of those AND be able to fit it


I've been meaning to do that since mine leaked a month or so after fitting (it was fitted badly. garage came out and swapped it over. At their cost after a bit of pushback from me)


I suppose those who had a failure for something are worried the same fault will reoccur or will happen to others? I replaced my pump earlier this year and it was in my mind to keep the old one in the van as a precaution (the old one is 90% ok so could be used if needs must). Right now it is in the shed and I'll keep it, but probably not carry it around (Tezza33s logic).

My coolant water pump was on the point of failing and found when we did a timing belt kit - mahoosive job to do.

I did carry a complete clutch for my first foray abroad in my 2.8jtd, just in case as the original failed under warranty.
Then a few years ago the clutch actually started slipping while in France and I nursed it all the way home, and we fitted a new one at home - I wasn’t carrying a spare clutch this time. Found to be the OEM clutch was a Valeo unit - now they are cheap! The new one I fitted was a Schaeffler LUK unit and compared side by side could be seen to be more robust.

I’m sure I’ve posted previously about the UFI fuel filters and how they leak/crack. The problem is they must be dismantled in a vice with the correct tool. Most repair garages won’t have that tool unless they specialise in Fiats. It’s a reasonably priced tool too and worthwhile having if your MH uses this style of filter. The fuel filter as a complete unit is extremely easy to remove and replace without tools - and so it’s why I carry one with me.

 

[SimonM]

Have a read here, same filter 130 and 160 engines

Fiat Ducato 160 multi jet

Fired up the m/h this .morning and let tick over for a wee while then noticed what i thought at first was water dripping, turned out to be diesel coming from the filter housing. Not had a chance to remove or to be honest its too freekin cold. Anyone else had this happen before ?

wildcamping.co.uk

 

[wildebus]

Have a read here, same filter 130 and 160 engines

Fiat Ducato 160 multi jet

Fired up the m/h this .morning and let tick over for a wee while then noticed what i thought at first was water dripping, turned out to be diesel coming from the filter housing. Not had a chance to remove or to be honest its too freekin cold. Anyone else had this happen before ?

wildcamping.co.uk

I think the general consensus is not to carry the spare naked filter, but a complete unit of filter prefitted in housing? save the hassles of trying to get it right. Not got round to buying a replacement, but seeing as the current one will have had under 1,000 miles under its belt it should not be a critical thing!
In my own case, the garage fitted the filter in the existing housing but for some reason omitted to fit the new O-ring that was supplied (and might also have cross-threaded the cap as well, which would not help matters). This is certainly an item I would probably never have replaced as part of a service any more but do it myself (The VW T4 fuel filter was brilliant - just dropped into a hole into the inner wing, two minutes to swap over and cost under £2.50 from Halfords for the same brand VW fitted).


I understand the Clutch failed on my Motorhome when it was in Spain - replaced at a cost into 4 figures whilst out there (before my ownership).

 

[TJBi]

I'm sure GMJ always carries a spare Water Pump, so not a wind up!

I also have a Reich 19l submersible Water Pump that I use to drop into a 25 ltr Water Tank Top Up Jerry Can. I wired an on/off switch and attached 4m of cable with a Heike [?] socket that plugs into the TV socket. Saves moving the M/home when water top up needed!

Steve

If I want to top up without moving the moho, I get out the watering can. Strikes me that a submersible pump as well might be a bit OTT.

 

[Pudsey Bear]

I was queueing at the traffic lights today next to a Sprinter, and I could hear the WP bearing whirring away, possibly the release bearing as they sound similar, I beeped and the passenger wound the window down so I told him, he just shrugged, I tried.

 

[SimonM]

I think the general consensus is not to carry the spare naked filter, but a complete unit of filter prefitted in housing? save the hassles of trying to get it right. Not got round to buying a replacement, but seeing as the current one will have had under 1,000 miles under its belt it should not be a critical thing!
In my own case, the garage fitted the filter in the existing housing but for some reason omitted to fit the new O-ring that was supplied (and might also have cross-threaded the cap as well, which would not help matters). This is certainly an item I would probably never have replaced as part of a service any more but do it myself (The VW T4 fuel filter was brilliant - just dropped into a hole into the inner wing, two minutes to swap over and cost under £2.50 from Halfords for the same brand VW fitted).


I understand the Clutch failed on my Motorhome when it was in Spain - replaced at a cost into 4 figures whilst out there (before my ownership).

I think the general consensus is not to carry the spare naked filter, but a complete unit of filter prefitted in housing? save the hassles of trying to get it right. Not got round to buying a replacement, but seeing as the current one will have had under 1,000 miles under its belt it should not be a critical thing!
In my own case, the garage fitted the filter in the existing housing but for some reason omitted to fit the new O-ring that was supplied (and might also have cross-threaded the cap as well, which would not help matters). This is certainly an item I would probably never have replaced as part of a service any more but do it myself (The VW T4 fuel filter was brilliant - just dropped into a hole into the inner wing, two minutes to swap over and cost under £2.50 from Halfords for the same brand VW fitted).


I understand the Clutch failed on my Motorhome when it was in Spain - replaced at a cost into 4 figures whilst out there (before my ownership).

I keep a bare filter at home for use when I need to change it over. The removal tool must be held in a vice, the filter placed into the tool and the lid of the filter removed with the other part of the tool. Reassembly is the above reversed, ensuring that the correct torque is applied. It simply cannot be done away from a vice, tool and torque wrench or the casing can split.

 

[Pudsey Bear]

It's good they made it such a simple side of the road process isn't it, NOT.

 

[TJBi]

I have heard that on the Dethleffs forum that they are only getting two years out of the pumps and carry a spare. Have even seen someone asking what model so they can carry the same pump. My thought was why fit the same pump if they fail after two years? I purchased a Reich twin submersible pump with non return valve which gives 19l per minute from leisure shop direct which was the cheapest supplier that I found.

Friends had a Bürstner and also carried a spare submersible pump due to frequent failures. I've has no issues to date (touch wood) with a Shurflo. Had a Jabsco pump installed on a yacht a few decades ago. When that failed after 12/13 years, we were fortunate that the old galley footpump had been left in place and were able to use that to pressurise the system until we were able to purchase and fit a replacement electric pump.

 

[maingate]

I carried a spare pump in that I rigged up a pump to refill my water tank from a container. If the submersible failed then I had a one with me to swap over.