The death penalty

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I read that Singapore are going to execute the first woman for 20 years.

www.bbc.co.uk

Singapore to execute woman on drugs charge for the first time in 20 years

Sir Richard Branson and activists have called on authorities to spare Saridewi Djamani.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

I cant recall a discussion on the death penalty on here and hopefully this would not contravene any rules on politics.

I'd be interested to hear your views on it.
 
US is riddled with cases where people have been convicted on false testimony, junk science and corrupt Police/District Attorneys et al. Those exonerated now number well over 150, and the wrongful executions are frighteningly high.

The Singaporean regime is vicious in the extreme and the condemned are overwhelmingly from the marginalised sector of society, where the convict is too poor to employ a lawyer, not intelligent enough to be aware of his/her rights, and lacking the connections to have media/celebs take up their cause

Final point; Singapore was due to execute a male on Wednesday, with the woman to be hanged on Friday. The Press coverage focused on the woman's impending execution; if there is equality between the sexes, why should the gender be more important where a female is involved? In Saudi Arabia, where beheadings follow Friday Prayers, women are reported as going to their deaths more bravely than the males

Steve
 
If I had more confidence in Our Policing Methods & with more correct DNA Results in today's age resulting in the Guilty party being Convicted I would be all for it "Eye for an Eye" Thinking that the threat of the " Death Penalty " would be off putting to criminals.You only have to look at that y/day bloke done 20yrs for a crime he didn't commit...where was THAT DNA evidence 20yr ago.
 
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Killing is wrong regardless of who is doing it, build more escape-proof prisons and stop access to Drugs, TV, phones and computers it's not a holiday camp.
 
I don't think the death penalty will return. So any idea of should we have it reinstated is a waste of time.What should be discussed is how to deal with premeditated murder where there is undeniable proof of guilt. There should be whole life terms with no possibility of appeal and the only release is by death naturally or by euthanasia if requested by the person convicted
 
Pudsey Bear said:
I agree except for the euthanasia part, law abiding folk are denied that release, so why give it to a murderer?
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If it involves the USA, Kev, they have a record of botched executions where lethal injection was used. Alabama and Oklahoma have been spectacularly inept, with one execution taking 3 hours and 2 earlier attempts failing, resulting in the prisoner being returned to his cell in a mutilated condition until another attempt can be arranged. The USA has lso mnaged to bungle executions by electrocution as well, including cases of the prisoner being set on fire/semi BBQ'd etc. The only category with a 100% success rate is Firing Squad

And all of the above is after a myriad of unsafe and/or definitely corrupt convictions at the trial stage

Steve
 
I was responding to Mickrick, should have used the reply option but I was on my telling bone.
 
while i think the death penalty is a fitting punishment for many crimes , i have never had the faith in our legal system to risk bringing it back on the statute books ,
 
Albert Pierrepoint, who was an Official Executioner who both invented some apparatus, such as the pinion for a one armed prisoner, and who tught the practical and humane method of hanging in a number of countries, was not particularly supportive of the Death Penalty. He said that he could have no opinion on the matter; the State had decided by virtue of its legal process, on which he was not qualified to comment, had decided that a prisoner should be executed. Mr Pierrepoint's role was to ensure that he carried out the process as humanely, professionally and in as dignified manner as possible, showing respect for the prisoner, both in the seconds leading up to the execution and in the handling of the corpse, post-execution

Steve
 
He hanged 434 people, I don't know how he managed to sleep at all.
 
Pudsey Bear said:
He hanged 434 people, I don't know how he managed to sleep at all.
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Perfectly easily and normally. He saw his job as carrying out the legal decision humanely, respectfully, and with dignity [he had a major disagreement with another trained executioner, Steve Wade when the latter mocked the prisoner, and I believe that Mr Pierrepoint refused to have Mr Wade work as his assistant thereafter

Albert Pierrepoint's uncle told him not to take the job if he needed to take alcohol in preparation for the execution, because that risked a botched execution

Steve
 
I don't sleep well if I feel I've genuinely upset anyone.

Well not anyone, I do have a few exceptions to that.
 
My gut feeling with probably 4 billion excess humans on the planet already is something is needed.
We really ought to be disposing of those that commit many types of crime. They’ve demonstrated their contempt for the greater good so won’t be missed, most have zero value in being kept alive other than to the businesses and do-gooder individuals and especially organisations that profit from doing so and are simply surplus to requirements at a significant financial burden, and if ever released, are a future threat to society.

I suspect in the not too distant future as society continues to grow far beyond what the planet can reasonably sustain it will begin an inevitable decline in to anarchy and at that point the death sentence, voluntary and involuntary euthanasia etc will quickly reappear and become the norm.

Fortunately I will be long gone by then..
 
A New York bus conucter was found guilty of 5 counts of murder and was sentenced to death, this was in 19 65 apparently, after long protracted appeals all denied he was piit in the Electric chair which failed to kill him, they tried 3 more times I think it was and still it failed, another appeal and because of the trauma he had suffered his sentence was repealed to life in Prison, he became the subject of many studies even appearing on T V from his cell he was asked why he thought that the Electric Chair failed to kill him as it should have done and he replied well that is easy I am a bad Conductor hee hee
 
CriftinsCampers said:
My gut feeling with probably 4 billion excess humans on the planet already is something is needed.
We really ought to be disposing of those that commit many types of crime. They’ve demonstrated their contempt for the greater good so won’t be missed, most have zero value in being kept alive other than to the businesses and do-gooder individuals and especially organisations that profit from doing so and are simply surplus to requirements at a significant financial burden, and if ever released, are a future threat to society.

I suspect in the not too distant future as society continues to grow far beyond what the planet can reasonably sustain it will begin an inevitable decline in to anarchy and at that point the death sentence, voluntary and involuntary euthanasia etc will quickly reappear and become the norm.

Fortunately I will be long gone by then..
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Hmmmm. Human beings disposable. Sure I read something about that happening in Europe not that long ago.
 
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