Heater system which one to choose in a small self build?

Wissel

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Just been looking into which heater to fit myself. I was planning on a diesel (Planer 2K).

Then I read the story on the BBC this morning about the UK trying for carbon neutral by 2050 and wondered what our carbon footprint was (fulltime in van). So I did a few calculations. It worked out that if I use 200 litres of diesel per year to heat the van, this would produce 0.58 metric tons of CO2e.

So I wondered what the difference would be with gas. To work this out I needed to know how much fuel a diesel or gas heater burns. I picked two and these are the manufacturers figures:

Propex HS2000 - Average consumption 142 grams per hour (works out to be roughly 280ml)
Webesto 2000 - Average consumption 200ml per hour

We have a 38ltr underslung gas tank already fitted, so would run the Propex off LPG. These are the figures I got:

Cost for 200Ltr's Diesel (@£1.47 per litre) = £294 with a carbon footprint of 0.58 metric tons.
Cost for 280Ltr's LPG (@£0.62 per litre) = £174 with a carbon footprint of 0.42 metric tons.

So for us, it looks like the Propex is the sensible choice.
 

helmit

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Just been looking into which heater to fit myself. I was planning on a diesel (Planer 2K).

Then I read the story on the BBC this morning about the UK trying for carbon neutral by 2050 and wondered what our carbon footprint was (fulltime in van). So I did a few calculations. It worked out that if I use 200 litres of diesel per year to heat the van, this would produce 0.58 metric tons of CO2e.

So I wondered what the difference would be with gas. To work this out I needed to know how much fuel a diesel or gas heater burns. I picked two and these are the manufacturers figures:

Propex HS2000 - Average consumption 142 grams per hour (works out to be roughly 280ml)
Webesto 2000 - Average consumption 200ml per hour

We have a 38ltr underslung gas tank already fitted, so would run the Propex off LPG. These are the figures I got:

Cost for 200Ltr's Diesel (@£1.47 per litre) = £294 with a carbon footprint of 0.58 metric tons.
Cost for 280Ltr's LPG (@£0.62 per litre) = £174 with a carbon footprint of 0.42 metric tons.

So for us, it looks like the Propex is the sensible choice.
I still use kerosene from our central heating tank at home 45p per litre at the mo but will be a bit cheaper when the summer gets going.
 

campervan

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Yes I have a Heat sorse 2000 seems to the job well can get parts.got circuit board 200 pounds delivered does use a bit of battery campervan
 

nabsim

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Just been looking into which heater to fit myself. I was planning on a diesel (Planer 2K).

Then I read the story on the BBC this morning about the UK trying for carbon neutral by 2050 and wondered what our carbon footprint was (fulltime in van). So I did a few calculations. It worked out that if I use 200 litres of diesel per year to heat the van, this would produce 0.58 metric tons of CO2e.

So I wondered what the difference would be with gas. To work this out I needed to know how much fuel a diesel or gas heater burns. I picked two and these are the manufacturers figures:

Propex HS2000 - Average consumption 142 grams per hour (works out to be roughly 280ml)
Webesto 2000 - Average consumption 200ml per hour

We have a 38ltr underslung gas tank already fitted, so would run the Propex off LPG. These are the figures I got:

Cost for 200Ltr's Diesel (@£1.47 per litre) = £294 with a carbon footprint of 0.58 metric tons.
Cost for 280Ltr's LPG (@£0.62 per litre) = £174 with a carbon footprint of 0.42 metric tons.

So for us, it looks like the Propex is the sensible choice.
For the gas figures did you use bottled gas or LPG/auto Gas? I believe that lpg has some additives that help when used in engines which is what it is intended for. I have only got this from forum posts which is why is say ‘I believe’ so it may be wrong. If it is right using refillable gas may affect the carbon figures you use unless you have already accounted for this.

I have found figures can usually be manipulated to show what someone wants and I would certainly not base any purchases on manufacturers figures. You only need to look at what big players in the car market have been doing to massage figures to show what puts them in the best light. Never looked at how you would produce your own tests for carbon in emission but it’s probably not practical to do so unless you have a garage with emission testing kit.
 
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RV2MAX

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When you were calculating your CO2 output did you take into a/c CO2 released by opening bottles of lemonade , drunk to keep you cool if you set the thermostat too high ? :)
BTW CO2 is 0.04% or atmosphere, 97% of that is not manmade , and UK produces 1.3% of 3% that is manmade :)
 

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