New C&CC rule for information

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As a retired widower I like to go travelling as much as possible.I have recently been notified by the C&CC that I have over stayed their 60 night in any 3 month period. I responded telling them that I was touring and visiting my other daughters and grandchildren and assured them that I am on the electoral register and registered with the local doctors and that even my dog is registered with the local vets which is all I could think of doing. It seems ok with them and it’s a new rule brought in in August 2022 to ensure the purposes of the club is adhered to and protect its licences.
Just for your information thanks
 
I'm amazed that they have such a rule, not a problem for most I would think but if you like to tour as you do I would just tour as and when I liked and they should be damned grateful for your patronage, that's actually worse than the Shenzhen rules, I'd have said nothing until challenged then told them what I thought of the rule.
 
What do they drink and can I have some please !
But seriously. Provided you are taxed and insured (some insurers need electoral roll confirmed).
1 What is the problem !
2 None of their business
3 provided you comply with other limits per campsite.
What the fuss !...sorry typo.
 
Antonio said:
As a retired widower I like to go travelling as much as possible.I have recently been notified by the C&CC that I have over stayed their 60 night in any 3 month period. I responded telling them that I was touring and visiting my other daughters and grandchildren and assured them that I am on the electoral register and registered with the local doctors and that even my dog is registered with the local vets which is all I could think of doing. It seems ok with them and it’s a new rule brought in in August 2022 to ensure the purposes of the club is adhered to and protect its licences.
Just for your information thanks
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The C&CC Rule is covered under Sections 3.6.2 and 3.6.3 [although the use of the word 'challenged' is unnecessarily inflammatory; 'Verified' would be much more customer friendly] and refers to the network being for recreational touring purposes only. C&CC do not state how you may answer their challenge, so equity [and common sense?] would indicate that your sending a copy of your Council tax notice and/or Driving Licence [and possibly your household insurance policy highlighting the clause that limits your continuous absence to 60 days, unless you pay an additional premium for 90 days unoccupied property cover] should be enough to satisfy the C&CC somewhat draconian Rules. I would ask for confirmation that you have satisfied their 'challenge' and ask why such provocative terminology is used.

Steve
 
Here’s the rule from the C&MH Club - nothing about “challenges“.

“Maximum stay durations

The maximum stay duration on Club campsites varies between 21 and 28 days. This information is made clear on each Club campsite website page. Plus, at the point of booking, availability will be limited within the calendar to reflect the maximum stay duration. You will be required to provide two days (nights) absence from an individual campsite between sequential stays where each stay extends to the maximum stay duration.

However, you are freely able to move from one Club campsite to another on consecutive days and enjoy up to the maximum duration at each campsite (i.e. the two day absence period does not apply when moving from one campsite to another).”
 
Something which may have been missed from the original comment when making the replies I have highlighted.

Antonio said:
As a retired widower I like to go travelling as much as possible.I have recently been notified by the C&CC that I have over stayed their 60 night in any 3 month period. I responded telling them that I was touring and visiting my other daughters and grandchildren and assured them that I am on the electoral register and registered with the local doctors and that even my dog is registered with the local vets which is all I could think of doing. It seems ok with them and it’s a new rule brought in in August 2022 to ensure the purposes of the club is adhered to and protect its licences.
Just for your information thanks
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Maybe there is some new external regulation that we are not aware of and which the C&CC feel they need to apply/adhere to in order to ensure the continuing success of the club?
A lot of (probably all) Holiday Parks have a limitation of the amount of nights the owner of a static caravan/lodge can stay in one year to keep their license and operate as a Holiday Park and not a Residential one. Maybe this rule has been extended to (or always applied but not enforced) to Camping Clubs like the C&CC and their sites?
It does seem quite a high restriction with a maximum of 8 months a year total, and if someone WAS full-timing on campsites, they could easily just switch between C&CC and non-C&CC sites, so it is ineffective really, but that is true of so many rules, regulations and laws.

The C&CC allowed the OP to stay after his legal residence elsewhere was confirmed, so this suggests to me that this ruling was not of the C&CC's choosing as they have decided to ignore it when they can pass on the proof to any relevant authorities that someone is not living full-time on the sites but is a genuine holidaymaker.



The C&MH Club do not have that rule posted on their site CURRENTLY. Given this is a new rule from just a few months ago for the C&CC, I would not be surprised to see the C&MH to add it.
 
Usually the static caravan park home sites are 11 out of 12 months, Christmas is usually when they close them up, but you can still visit in that month but not stay the night, I lived on my friends site for two years all year, and you just made sure you had curtains drawn at night and park in the car park not outside the caravan but we never saw any kind of checking.
 
Ironically, if you take out Home Insurance through the C&CC you get 90 days cover when away from home. Unless that has been changed also.
 
I must be missing something what has your home insurance got to do with the club? it's none of their concern or problem if it goes up in flames.

You should have it of course but it's a private matter.
 
Pudsey Bear said:
Usually the static caravan park home sites are 11 out of 12 months, Christmas is usually when they close them up, but you can still visit in that month but not stay the night, I lived on my friends site for two years all year, and you just made sure you had curtains drawn at night and park in the car park not outside the caravan but we never saw any kind of checking.
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I have noticed some do an actual closedown, but others are open 365 days a year and the vans can be used every night. just not by the same person constantly.
I think all have residents unofficially. I recall a conversation with a site manager at one holiday park who said during the Covid lockdown a number of people stayed on when all the parks had to close as they had nowhere else they could go.
 
My pub had a rule that you could only sleepover once a week.
But I fooled them and slept in the bar from 8pm to 10pm.
On ski holidays we rarely returned before midnight...
So not overnighting !
 
Pudsey Bear said:
I must be missing something what has your home insurance got to do with the club? it's none of their concern or problem if it goes up in flames.

You should have it of course but it's a private matter.
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I don't think the C&CC asked for that. The suggestion was that it could be offered as further proof of being residential elsewhere.
 
I think we need another good toilet thread, you all seem to be itching to pick posts apart 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
Ardachaidh said:
Here’s the rule from the C&MH Club - nothing about “challenges“.

“Maximum stay durations

The maximum stay duration on Club campsites varies between 21 and 28 days. This information is made clear on each Club campsite website page. Plus, at the point of booking, availability will be limited within the calendar to reflect the maximum stay duration. You will be required to provide two days (nights) absence from an individual campsite between sequential stays where each stay extends to the maximum stay duration.

However, you are freely able to move from one Club campsite to another on consecutive days and enjoy up to the maximum duration at each campsite (i.e. the two day absence period does not apply when moving from one campsite to another).”
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Please refer to my Post #4 re 'challenges'. Rule 3.6.2 Where any camper is staying on the network for more than 60 nights within any 3-month period, the Club reserves the right to challenge a camper’s residential status, to ensure they are using the network for the purpose in which it is operated.

Steve
 
Steve, I read your post and that’s why I looked up the C&MH Club rules to see if they had a similar statement about challenging whether a person had a permanent residence. They don’t, as far as I could see.

Graham
 
Ardachaidh said:
Steve, I read your post and that’s why I looked up the C&MH Club rules to see if they had a similar statement about challenging whether a person had a permanent residence. They don’t, as far as I could see.

Graham
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Graham, They do! I quoted the Rule 3.6.2 in both Post #4 and Post #16, emboldening the word 'challenge' in the latter viz: 'Where any camper is staying on the network for more than 60 nights within any 3-month period, the Club reserves the right to 👉 challenge 👈 a camper’s residential status, to ensure they are using the network for the purpose in which it is operated.'

Furthermore, this rule was the subject of the original post, concerned with the high-handed terminology used by C&CC

Steve
 
Pudsey Bear said:
I must be missing something what has your home insurance got to do with the club? it's none of their concern or problem if it goes up in flames.

You should have it of course but it's a private matter.
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Because they try to limit your trips to 60 days but support you being away up to 90 days.

Are you fick or summat? :)
 
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