Refillable gas bottle

[nabsim]

In the UK, the testing of LPG cylinders is primarily governed by The Carriage of Dangerous Goods and Use of Transportable Pressure Equipment Regulations, which implements the international ADR (Agreement concerning the International Transport of Dangerous Goods by Road).


Key Legal Requirements

• Mandatory Periodic Inspection: All refillable LPG cylinders used for transport of gas by road in the UK must be periodically inspected and tested to ensure they are safe and fit for purpose.
• Maximum Interval: The standard maximum interval between these inspections is 10 years.
• Extended Interval: The interval can be extended to 15 years if the cylinder owner applies to and receives authorisation from the national competent authority, which in the UK is the Vehicle Certification Agency (VCA). This requires meeting specific conditions and an enhanced internal inspection procedure. Cylinders with this authorization are marked "P15Y".
• Competent Persons/Bodies: Periodic inspection and testing must be carried out by an approved Inspection Body.
• • Cylinder Marking: Following a successful inspection, the date of the inspection and the identification number of the inspection body must be permanently marked on the cylinder.
  • Pre-fill Checks: Cylinders must also undergo documented checks before, during, and after every fill in accordance with relevant standards (e.g., BS EN 1439).
  • Landlord/Commercial Use: For LPG appliances provided by landlords in tenanted properties or for commercial use, there is a legal requirement under the Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations 1998 for an annual safety check by a Gas Safe registered engineer.

Responsible Parties

• Cylinder Owners: The owner of the cylinders (often the LPG supplier) is responsible for ensuring the cylinders are manufactured to appropriate standards and undergo the required periodic inspections.
• Users: Users of LPG systems have a duty to ensure that the whole system is in a safe condition at all times and that regular maintenance is conducted.
• Inspection Bodies: Approved inspection bodies are responsible for conducting the official periodic testing and marking the cylinders.

That does not apply to a private van bottle or tank

 

[nabsim]

My nearest lpg is £1.29 a little

Not bought any for over 12 months but noticed the BP just before M62 was 99p point something on the way out of Hull last week

 

[Pudsey Bear]

Just filled up keighley, not at Morrisons.

 

[Geek]

,another problem is the straps corrodes and the tank falls off

This is a much more significant issue.

There is one brand of campervan famed for the gas tanks falling off within a few weeks of new.

Well worth getting the straps looked at once a year, when the vehicle is serviced.

Fixing them before they break is much, much easier.

 

[Geek]

Just filled up keighley, not at Morrisons.

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Was that at the Texaco near the McDonalds?

 

[Geek]

My nearest lpg is £1.29 a little

The secret is to have a big enough tank or bottles so you can top up when passing a reasonable price, rather than have to fill up near where you live.

On our next trip, we shall pass Birmingham after about two weeks away, so the vague plan is to top up there.

Checking on the filllpg app (if you can get it) and/or the myLPG.eu app is well worth while.

 

[Geek]

In the UK, the testing of LPG cylinders is primarily governed by The Carriage of Dangerous Goods and Use of Transportable Pressure Equipment Regulations, which implements the international ADR (Agreement concerning the International Transport of Dangerous Goods by Road).


Key Legal Requirements

• Mandatory Periodic Inspection: All refillable LPG cylinders used for transport of gas by road in the UK must be periodically inspected and tested to ensure they are safe and fit for purpose.
• Maximum Interval: The standard maximum interval between these inspections is 10 years.
• Extended Interval: The interval can be extended to 15 years if the cylinder owner applies to and receives authorisation from the national competent authority, which in the UK is the Vehicle Certification Agency (VCA). This requires meeting specific conditions and an enhanced internal inspection procedure. Cylinders with this authorization are marked "P15Y".
• Competent Persons/Bodies: Periodic inspection and testing must be carried out by an approved Inspection Body.
• • Cylinder Marking: Following a successful inspection, the date of the inspection and the identification number of the inspection body must be permanently marked on the cylinder.
  • Pre-fill Checks: Cylinders must also undergo documented checks before, during, and after every fill in accordance with relevant standards (e.g., BS EN 1439).
  • Landlord/Commercial Use: For LPG appliances provided by landlords in tenanted properties or for commercial use, there is a legal requirement under the Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations 1998 for an annual safety check by a Gas Safe registered engineer.

Responsible Parties

• Cylinder Owners: The owner of the cylinders (often the LPG supplier) is responsible for ensuring the cylinders are manufactured to appropriate standards and undergo the required periodic inspections.
• Users: Users of LPG systems have a duty to ensure that the whole system is in a safe condition at all times and that regular maintenance is conducted.
• Inspection Bodies: Approved inspection bodies are responsible for conducting the official periodic testing and marking the cylinders.

This is a common problem. People quote legislation that doesn't actually apply in the case under discussion.

The bottle or tank on your motorhome is for the storage of gas, not for the transport of gas.

 

[Pudsey Bear]

This is a much more significant issue.

There is one brand of campervan famed for the gas tanks falling off within a few weeks of new.

Well worth getting the straps looked at once a year, when the vehicle is serviced.

Fixing them before they break is much, much easier.

A couple of stainless steel strips would cure that.

 

[Molly 3]

Paying a high price is better not getting any

This is a much more significant issue.

There is one brand of campervan famed for the gas tanks falling off within a few weeks of new.

Well worth getting the straps looked at once a year, when the vehicle is serviced.

Fixing them before they break i

autogass 2000 fit.them.with strong rolled steel.straps

 

[ted47]

We have 2 refillable gas bottles, as soon as 1 bottle gets empty we look to fill up, simple.

 

[trevexess]

I have never "got" this one refillable and one non refillable!

If you have refillable cylinders, you can top them up wherever and wherever you are. Calor cylinders cannot be refilled, so when it is part used, do you exchange before going, or chance it?

It's simple, when the one refillable bottle runs out, you hook up the other non refillable and leave it on until it is empty, giving you lots of time to refill the original, then reverse procedure. Always worked well for myself all over UK and Europe.