Electric scooters !??????????????????

marchie said:
The problem is, Eric, the electric sccoter is classified as a 'powered transporter' and is therefore banned from use on pavements, but cannot be used on the road electric scooter use problems. UK is carrying out research [US hire company propaganda?] and hopes to bring in legislation in 2023 or 2024. It's a mess at present!

Steve
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Electric scooters can be used on the road in the U.K. Steve, they just have to be hired and not owned
 
Coppers can't be ar5ed with enforcing this one... I was following a rozzer into Carlisle this afternoon and there was a woman using one on the pavement and the rozzer didn't even stop. He could not have missed seeing her...
Typical
K :(
 
You get a fine in Gibraltar for no helmet., riding on a pavement or pedestrian area, not following road traffic signs, ie traffic lights. Stop signs .There is a age limit but I can't remember it as it doesn't apply to me.
They are legal to use in Spain as far as I'm aware.
 
Vanterrier said:
Coppers can't be ar5ed with enforcing this one... I was following a rozzer into Carlisle this afternoon and there was a woman using one on the pavement and the rozzer didn't even stop. He could not have missed seeing her...
Typical
K :(
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It's not entirely fair to blame the police in this. When the law is grey and differs from area to area, how could anyone ask any policeman to put their careers, mortgages, and pensions at risk, particularly when some folk are only too ready to criticise.

In the interest of balance, one of my son's is a specialised policeman, and I used to have a driving licence that had more endorsements than most. 😊
 
Why would the seller carry any responsibility?
I buy a 4T MH: should the seller check that I have C1?
I buy an air rifle: should the seller check that I don't intend firing at people?

I bought poison to kill moles in my garden: I signed the Poison Register but nothing could be done to prevent me from putting it in my neighbours dinner! (I might have to face the consequences, if caught, but the shop had no control over me.)

Folk complain about people giving MHs a bad name by dumping black waste illicitly: who should carry the responsibility? Other MHers? The shop which sold the MH? The people who dump the waste?

To my mind, this boy should be responsible and should accept the punishment: it seems that he is doing so.
Is the punishment proportionate and fair? IMO I would have been harsher BUT he does have to live with this for the rest of his life and perhaps that is enough.
Will others be deterred from riding privately owned escooters on pavements? It seems to have been news to some on here that to do so is illegal (in UK), so it has clearly had some effect.

Gordon
 
Not allowed e scooters on the rd or anywhere public here, Belfast is full of them and some have been lifted and crushed, fact is many escape the police and dont care, parents know the law but buy them anyway for the kids.
 
An off the shelf trolley with all the bells and whistles :whistle:
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Why has no one thought of a self driving electric bed, of to work still sleeping every morning, how brilliant would that be. :unsure:
 

Are electric scooters illegal in the UK?​

It is currently illegal in the UK to use a privately owned electric scooter on public roads, pavements or cycle lanes. Electric scooters can only be legally used on private land with the permission of the landowner. You are, however, legally entitled to buy, sell and own an electric scooter.

In UK law, an electric scooter is classified as a “powered transporter”, alongside products such as hoverboards, “go-peds” and powered unicycles.

The above doesn’t appear to be policed where I live, alongside e off-road scrambler cycles and ebikes doing way in excess of 15.5 mph without the rider peddling.
 
trevskoda said:
Why has no one thought of a self driving electric bed, of to work still sleeping every morning, how brilliant would that be. :unsure:
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Half of them are still asleep anyway Trev, or putting on their faces or texting mistresses.
 
We'd like to get a couple of E bikes too, But since Liz had her knees done she doesn't have sufficient bend in either to pedal one, and using electric alone is illegal here.

Plus the outrageous cost of them.
 
Pudsey Bear said:
We'd like to get a couple of E bikes too, But since Liz had her knees done she doesn't have sufficient bend in either to pedal one, and using electric alone is illegal here.

Plus the outrageous cost of them.
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If you get ones made before a certain age, then it is perfectly legal to have assistance-free ones. We have two e-bikes and they predate certain regs and so can be started off and ridden without using the pedals at all and also have a twist-throttle (legal at the time also) which is good.
Bought these second-hand from motorhomers who decided to give up using the bikes and went down the 'toed' route instead.
Advantage of doing this was also a big saving from buying new as, as you rightly say, the cost of them can be outrageous!

PS. Can Liz support herself ok on one leg after her knee job? Asking this as a long time ago (over 40 years ago), I broke my leg Skiiing and was in plaster from thigh to toes for 3 months. This weakened my knee for quite a while and I remember riding my bike, stopping at a junction and put my foot down when waiting, as you do. And the weight of myself was a bit more than the knee could take and I gradually toppled over in slow motion (I think I remembered to use the other leg when stopping after that :) )
 
I wouldn't know what to look for David, and you have the advantage of being able to possibly repair the old ones, we'd need a repairer, not even sure where you'd go for that.


Yes she a strong old bear.

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Pudsey Bear said:
I wouldn't know what to look for David, and you have the advantage of being able to possibly repair the old ones, we'd need a repairer, not even sure where you'd go for that.


Yes she a strong old bear.

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I didn't know either really. Just 'lucked' into them as OH happened to see them on Trevs favourite shop ... Facebook Market Place and they were around 5 miles from us.
Nothing special. They don't look fancy or trendy but simple to get on, off and ride. Photo below (the open area between seat post and rear wheel is where the battery drops into place)
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