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Pudsey Bear said:
We always asked if they wanted it masking off or left unpainted for them to paint themselves.
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Easy with a wet sys but not so with powder, i dont like powder and refussed to install a unit in our workshop along with a expensive oven to run.
There has been a few cases of fights at test stations here and police called, hence these days you park in a line at the door and walk away from the car rain hale or snow to it emerges out the gates with or without a cert, there is no talk or interface with any testers these days.test station.jpgtest station a.jpg
 
Masking is masking, you can get fancy heat proof stuff but normal stuff works fine it just leaves a residue from the adhesive.

I don't understand the reluctance to use powder coating, it is far superior to most wet paints, but two pack is ok for some applications.

And ovens can be a expensive but we moved three times and used a modified 10'x10' stove enameling oven, basically a big steel box bolted together at the corners, a steel plate at the back with an array of 2kw heating elements (same as the oven at home but longer) and a slow moving fan to circulate the heat & prevent hot spots, initially it wasn't insulated, but we did eventually as it was purgatory in summer.
 
Pudsey Bear said:
Masking is masking, you can get fancy heat proof stuff but normal stuff works fine it just leaves a residue from the adhesive.
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I would not quite agree with this.
The typical masking tape that is on sale at hardware shops - e.g. the beige stuff - is a very poor choice when it comes to masking on paint lines. It is ok for securing covers but is much too thick and can leave a very obvious edge if care is not taken. It is also too strong quite often and can pull fresh paint (and even not so-fresh paint!) off. Used to peel the strips off and apply them to a cloth or trousers first a couple of times to get rid of the strong tack as a precaution.

The 'blue' masking tape (usually blue but I have have green and yellow versions) is so much nicer.... Far thinner, zero residue to clean even if left for prolonged periods and will store in the draw without going horrible (that beige stuff seems to leach its glue in use and even not in use, making it unusable after a time.

I only ever use the proper blue masking tape on a paint line. The beige stuff if I happened to have any would be on the masking paper to secure onto maybe windows or trim to keep in place.

As an aside, something that is very nice I find is the masking film. Tried that? Thin clear film on a roll with pre-fitted strip of masking tape. Very quick and much better than rolls of the brown masking paper (or newspaper if a cheapskate :) ). Tends to stick to the sides due to static and so doesn't blow around so much when setting up.


Pudsey Bear said:
I don't understand the reluctance to use powder coating, it is far superior to most wet paints, but two pack is ok for some applications.
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Trev is obsessed with powder-coating being rubbish. It is his version of "Windows" for painting. ' nuff said.

Pudsey Bear said:
And ovens can be a expensive but we moved three times and used a modified 10'x10' stove enameling oven, basically a big steel box bolted together at the corners, a steel plate at the back with an array of 2kw heating elements (same as the oven at home but longer) and a slow moving fan to circulate the heat & prevent hot spots, initially it wasn't insulated, but we did eventually as it was purgatory in summer.
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Masking for powder coating David is only for mating and bearing surfaces so the cheapest is more than good enough, the heating only made it stick better, and we had to remove it as soon as parts came out of the oven.

We only did powder coating as part of the business.

As for Trev, I just abuse him, he seems to thrive on it, I try to help him but you can't polish a turd, only cover it in glitter.
 
Pudsey Bear said:
Masking for powder coating David is only for mating and bearing surfaces so the cheapest is more than good enough, the heating only made it stick better, and we had to remove it as soon as parts came out of the oven.
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Fair enough - I thought you were referring to spraying (y)

Pudsey Bear said:
We only did powder coating as part of the business.

As for Trev, I just abuse him, he seems to thrive on it, I try to help him but you can't polish a turd, only cover it in glitter.
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I've never powder-coated stuff myself. I used to take my stuff to a company in Edinburgh to do. They would take the wheels, dip, clean and prep and powder-coat them for a fixed price - around £25 a wheel IIRC.
 
No. We ran a Powder coating business, (still going strong) I did put my own stuff through of course and for friends.
 
Problem with powder is you cant touch it up or over paint, it also flakes if not done correctly, all bike frames should be heated first then hit with the powder gun and sent back into the oven, if not done like this bits like the crown head dont take to well and starts flaking off, well aware you know this anyway my yellow friend. ;)
 
I have no idea where you get your info from Trev but yes Indeed it can be touched up Trev, if it's a RAL colour, then wet paint will be fine over powder, but if it was done at Triple S chipping would be very unlikely due to how we applied it.

Dunno What King Charles head has to with anything though :D :D

If not pre-heated you can have Faraday cage problems but it would never flake off regardless if done properly, I can only speak to how we did it though, plenty of cowbow outfits put think it's a filing cabinet and just put it on a hook and wave bye bye to it Triple S specialised in doing motorcycle frames, firms like Dream Machie used to bring their frames to us and we got lots of accolades from the biking press and did many of their project bike, we knew what we were doing.
 
Pudsey Bear said:
I have no idea where you get your info from Trev but yes Indeed it can be touched up Trev, if it's a RAL colour, then wet paint will be fine over powder, but if it was done at Triple S chipping would be very unlikely due to how we applied it.

Dunno What King Charles head has to with anything though :D :D

If not pre-heated you can have Faraday cage problems but it would never flake off regardless if done properly, I can only speak to how we did it though, plenty of cowbow outfits put think it's a filing cabinet and just put it on a hook and wave bye bye to it Triple S specialised in doing motorcycle frames, firms like Dream Machie used to bring their frames to us and we got lots of accolades from the biking press and did many of their project bike, we knew what we were doing.
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My biz partner was with loyns of belfast for years, they had a powder unit and oven, he used to do his dinner in it lol, when they clossed we took up the jobs but mainly all with airles units or s gun, we did some big jobs which paid realy well.oil tank.jpg
 
Never heard of them, what work did they do?
 
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Never heard of them, what work did they do?
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All the work in england here and esp the H&W shipyard, some of the other lads opened up in the yard as some work still there, but we wanted to do a range of jobs, esp bike frames radators car wheels fireplaces etc, but we did lots of big jobs, some in England.
12 life boats we did in the yard with 2 pack on roller aplication.

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trevskoda said:
All the work in england here and esp the H&W shipyard, some of the other lads opened up in the yard as some work still there, but we wanted to do a range of jobs, esp bike frames radators car wheels fireplaces etc, but we did lots of big jobs, some in England.
12 life boats we did in the yard with 2 pack on roller aplication.
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But what were they powder coating as part of their business?, what type of oven etc?
 
Pudsey Bear said:
But what were they powder coating as part of their business?, what type of oven etc?
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No idea as i did not work there, it was my biz partner terry who did, ther premissis was in Malusk just a mile from me, now its a galvo plant for N K Coatings.nk coatings.jpg
 
So basically your telling me all about powder coating but have no personal knowledge of it, despite me owing and running a company that specialised in do in high class work for critical customers, that's a bit like me telling you all about outboard motors and some little used operating system.

Don't poke bears ;) ;)
 
Hi everyone who responded to my cry for help about fixing my marker lamp. I am pleased to say thanks for your help I have working lamps and a replaced panel trim. :)

I couldn't believe how this post eventually included motorbikes, powder coating, and finally a boat. Sorry I didn't read them as none of them apply to me. I have enough problems coping with simple jobs like replacing trim and connecting lights.

If you are at the Kelso or Rye meet introduce yourselves, you cant miss my bright orange mh.
 
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