Aerotoxic radio programme.

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As a young lab assistant, i used to sample from the output from the machine shop. Just a white lab coat.
No protective gloves, goggles, etc.
Everything was covered in cutting fluid . To clear it off, I was shown how to swill the samples off by immersing them in a bucket of Carbon Tet , from from the tank of the degreasing machine.

If you got a grease strain on your clothes, a pad of cotton waste was in daily use, to clean down before going home.
I always wondered, over the years , why the machine shop workers seemed to die younger than the folk who worked in the much more hazardous casting foundry.
I think I'm the only survivor of my contemporaries.
.I left aged 28, after 11 years.
Jenny is right when she mutters..
" He's a bleeding miracle, he is !"
 

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As a young lab assistant, i used to sample from the output from the machine shop. Just a white lab coat.
No protective gloves, goggles, etc.
Everything was covered in cutting fluid . To clear it off, I was shown how to swill the samples off by immersing them in a bucket of Carbon Tet , from from the tank of the degreasing machine.

If you got a grease strain on your clothes, a pad of cotton waste was in daily use, to clean down before going home.
I always wondered, over the years , why the machine shop workers seemed to die younger than the folk who worked in the much more hazardous casting foundry.
I think I'm the only survivor of my contemporaries.
.I left aged 28, after 11 years.
Jenny is right when she mutters..
" He's a bleeding miracle, he is !"

As I have discovered from personally having DNA tests some people are far more susceptible to toxins than others.
 

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Following a mention on WC just rewatched “A Dark Reflection” on Prime. No oscars for the acting, but it is technically accurate and covers this topic in a different way. Tristan Loraine the director and producer is a former colleague whose latest film “Everybody Flies” is more documentary and has won awards. I got to see it just before lock down last year and it is excellent, but I don’t think it’s available on line yet.
 

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Spoke with my near neighbour today, Bill. The EasyJet pilot, I was telling about the movie, which he has viewed, he also knows of the producer, Tristian. Neighbour was saying he writes various articles for the union.

Tristan has dealt with BALPA over many years. At one time the union appeared very supportive but it’s many years since the conference shown below and they have done little. Unite the union is presently pursuing a class action for 150 members but the pandemic has pushed the first hearing back to 2022. Interestingly EasyJet are apparently going to fit their aircraft with the filters.

 

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Last week a 4 day online conference took place on the issue. I only saw some of the presentations and many were beyond my scientific knowledge, but it confirmed to me that the problem undoubtedly exists. Here is one (slightly technical but with interesting conclusions) film shown.

 

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Yet another report came out today. Link
A very interesting and well written article, Bill. I'm not sure why the authors emphasis the fact that the carrier of the monitoring equipment was an experienced aircraft captain - but that doesn't detract from the findings.
Thanks for supplying the link.

Colin 🙂🙂🙂
 
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A very interesting and well written article, Bill. I'm not sure why the authors emphasis the fact that the carrier of the monitoring equipment was an experienced aircraft captain - but that doesn't detract from the findings.
Thanks for supplying the link.

Colin 🙂🙂🙂

I may be wrong, but think that it was to show that he understood the various power settings giving the different readings. A pity that the readings have to be taken with some subterfuge.
 

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Thanks to those who have continued to follow my updates on this, I do feel that the more who are aware of the problem the more likely that something will be done about it.
THIS latest update has much of interest along with many links, from the professor removed from post for expressing his views to the mention of a genetic deficiency present in up to 20% of the population (myself included) which limits toxin removal.
 

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I assume the replier 'Allan' works for the airline in a managerial position? He appears to be in denial about the effects of fume toxicity and just doesn't want to see the link.
I know nothing about such things compared to you Bill but I know enough that industries deny, deny, deny until they are blue in the face until eventually they back themselves into a corner with nowhere else to go. Then, finally, the truth comes out, then the hard bargaining about compensation starts., which is what it is really all about for the airline industry. Money! Not peoples lives. What a sick way of looking at your fellow man/woman.
For the sufferers it is about recognition of the link, and yes, any compensation would be welcome as those affected become less mobile or more ill, specialist equipment, home adaptations or even the need to move to a single level dwelling and of course income will be necessary.
All the best to you Bill, keep on punching.
 

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