Electric scooters !??????????????????

What's the make and model please David?
 
wildebus said:
If you get ones made before a certain age, then it is perfectly legal to have assistance-free ones. We have two e-bikes and they predate certain regs and so can be started off and ridden without using the pedals at all and also have a twist-throttle (legal at the time also) which is good.
Bought these second-hand from motorhomers who decided to give up using the bikes and went down the 'toed' route instead.
Advantage of doing this was also a big saving from buying new as, as you rightly say, the cost of them can be outrageous!

PS. Can Liz support herself ok on one leg after her knee job? Asking this as a long time ago (over 40 years ago), I broke my leg Skiiing and was in plaster from thigh to toes for 3 months. This weakened my knee for quite a while and I remember riding my bike, stopping at a junction and put my foot down when waiting, as you do. And the weight of myself was a bit more than the knee could take and I gradually toppled over in slow motion (I think I remembered to use the other leg when stopping after that :) )
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True but they are only allowed to have 200w motors on twist and go bikes, new units are 250w with pedal assist only.
Many on sale here on f book with 3 to 5 thu w motors able to do 45mph and more.
 
I think the chances are a bit less of two old farts wandering around an old village getting nabbed.

do they need insurance etc David, battery life etc.

Then ee need the bits to fasten to the weird rack fitted to this van, it's not a Fiamma product.
 
Similar one here S&R

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Pudsey Bear said:
I think the chances are a bit less of two old farts wandering around an old village getting nabbed.

do they need insurance etc David, battery life etc.

Then ee need the bits to fasten to the weird rack fitted to this van, it's not a Fiamma product.
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no different to a normal bike ref insurance, etc. not measured battery life TBH. suffice to say never ran out. I see it mainly as an alternative to walking. So used to ride into Stratford a few times from the Racecourse, Henley-on-Thames from the Swiss Farm campsite, that kind of thing.
trevskoda said:
True but they are only allowed to have 200w motors on twist and go bikes, new units are 250w with pedal assist only.
Many on sale here on f book with 3 to 5 thu w motors able to do 45mph and more.
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May well be 200W (not looked) but they go as fast as I want to go - which is NOT 45MPH.
 
Pudsey Bear said:
What's the make and model please David?
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We have 2 E-Wayfarer Pro Riders. Just did a search to see if I can find a link on-line and saw this Youtube video from 10 years ago!
So fairly old eBikes. We bought ours used in Sept 2020 for £300 each which I think is ok. They are folding bikes as well and when I went to pick them up I put them both in the boot of the Vauxhall Corsa with the back seat still up!


Some Techie info:
Battery is a 36V 12Ah Lithium Battery - so in motorhome terms, it is the same capacity as a 12V 30Ah battery.
The Charger has a 42V 2A output, so that should mean it will recharge the battery from flat to full in 5 hours. Max input is 1.8A with a supply of 100V - 240V - which means an inverter of say 300W should be fine if recharging off the battery (you will take a fair bit out the battery but be perfectly feasible to recharge while driving along of course).

I would expect similar style/age bikes would have the same kind of battery and charger specs?
 
We gave both bikes of ours away
 
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Molly 3 said:
How can they be illegal loads , round here
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illegal to use is not the same as illegal to buy. And you can use on private land.

For example, back in the day, non-BT phones were illegal to use. for sale on every market stall in britain. in use in every house in britain.
 
wildebus said:
illegal to use is not the same as illegal to buy. And you can use on private land.

For example, back in the day, non-BT phones were illegal to use. for sale on every market stall in britain. in use in every house in britain.
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Riding one with a oversize moter etc is fine to you are involved in a accedent and some small legal eagle and judge has the pants of you, same with the inmates if you get a sentence.:eek:
 
wildebus said:
illegal to use is not the same as illegal to buy. And you can use on private land.

For example, back in the day, non-BT phones were illegal to use. for sale on every market stall in britain. in use in every house in britain.
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Not sure of illegal ? More breach of contract
Most actually illegal phones were sold to punters by BT engineers .
Apparently
 
runnach said:
An off the shelf trolley with all the bells and whistles :whistle:
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I have been re-looking at this for Gordon to make some mods. Battery moved to be above front wheels (front ballast), pull out seat at rear, think large Costco trolley, where Fi can place Gordon in while shopping. And if Gogs is a good boy with legs dangling oot to the rear, Fi may tickle his knees, I said tickle his knees!! :cool:
 
runnach said:
I have been re-looking at this for Gordon to make some mods. Battery moved to be above front wheels (front ballast), pull out seat at rear, think large Costco trolley, where Fi can place Gordon in while shopping. And if Gogs is a good boy with legs dangling oot to the rear, Fi may tickle his knees, I said tickle his knees!! :cool:
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'No, nurse. I *said*, 'Remove his glasses and prick his boil ...' :D

Steve
 
we bought two of the 36 bikes from ES bikes who stands at all the shows this was almost 13 years ago when we got molly could never train her to run alongside so they gradually got less use, i decided to give them a go last year having not charged them for a couple of years the batteries would only hold enough charge for about a mile so they definitely need rebuilding , the bikes were the aluminium folding bikes one 20” wheels one 26” cost £870 the pair rebuilding jan’s battery was going to be £287 mine would have been £308 that will have to wait till there is more likelihood of us using them
 

First e-scooter rider in Britain to sue over crash loses £30,000 claim after failing to prove existence of pothole she says broke her leg​


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First e-scooter rider in Britain to sue over crash loses £30,000 claim

Giovanna Drago, 20, claimed she suffered a broken leg after her new £500 e-scooter ploughed into a pothole in Friary Road, Barnet, north London in October 2020.
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Geoffrey Mott, representing Barnet, had pointed out that using privately owned e-scooters on public roads is 'currently illegal', citing the government's 'guidance for powered transporters'.

'Those riders using an authorised hire scheme are required to possess an "O" category on their own provisional or full driving licence,' he told the judge.

He added that Ms Drago had bought her £558 scooter from an Amazon supplier that routinely warns customers about legal restrictions banning e-scooters on the road.

Even if the council had been found at fault in failing to maintain the road, 'any recovery should be precluded because the injury was the consequence of her own unlawful acts', he said.

"Unfortunately" the case was thrown out because the photo submitted was of a pothole 3 months after the accident. It would have been far more interesting if it had been rejected because of her illegal riding.

Gordon
 
Norfolk NewBoy said:

First e-scooter rider in Britain to sue over crash loses £30,000 claim after failing to prove existence of pothole she says broke her leg​


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First e-scooter rider in Britain to sue over crash loses £30,000 claim

Giovanna Drago, 20, claimed she suffered a broken leg after her new £500 e-scooter ploughed into a pothole in Friary Road, Barnet, north London in October 2020.
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Geoffrey Mott, representing Barnet, had pointed out that using privately owned e-scooters on public roads is 'currently illegal', citing the government's 'guidance for powered transporters'.

'Those riders using an authorised hire scheme are required to possess an "O" category on their own provisional or full driving licence,' he told the judge.

He added that Ms Drago had bought her £558 scooter from an Amazon supplier that routinely warns customers about legal restrictions banning e-scooters on the road.

Even if the council had been found at fault in failing to maintain the road, 'any recovery should be precluded because the injury was the consequence of her own unlawful acts', he said.

"Unfortunately" the case was thrown out because the photo submitted was of a pothole 3 months after the accident. It would have been far more interesting if it had been rejected because of her illegal riding.

Gordon
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There is an earlier judgement [Hayes v Harlow UDC 1959 IIRC] where the summary began, 'The defendants, owners of a public toilet ...' so I read on, instead of studying for my Banking Exams ...

Mrs Hayes used the toilet at the station but became locked inside, She tried to climb out of the cubicle by stepping on the toilet roll holder 'which began to rotate because of the pressure, causing Mrs Hayes to fall and break her ankle'. Mrs Hayes sued the Council for negligence, but her damages were reduced to £250 because of her contributory negligence in climbing on the toilet roll holder ...

'Oh dear, what can the matter be ...' chorus? :D

Steve
 
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