Win 10 >>> Win 11

[wildebus]

I don't know when all these processors went insane!
When I was actually employed working on PC hardware and about to start a new job, the Intel 425DX was only just about to be released (and I was more used to the i8088 and 80286 with the 80386 clocking at 20MHz being the speed demon at the time if you had the budget ).
The first company I was a bench engineer with, the top machine was made up of 6 boards 11" wide each and ran at 1MIPS (a 25MHz '386 chip was 7 times faster)
This link shows just how faster computers have got over the last 40 years .... http://scottsoapbox.com/2015/08/15/how-far-weve-come-40-years-of-processing-power/

 

[Pudsey Bear]

I recall selling 256kb RAM for £25 a stick, we used to rip em out of PX PCs 1mb was an arm and a leg, nowadays we're into mega gb sticks if you want them.

I can also remember a Champion spark plug being 4 for a quid, how much are they now for essentially the same thing.

 

[trevskoda]

Who in there right mind would buy champion plugs, total dirt, NGK or Nipondenso every time, i never mentioned it.

 

[wildebus]

I recall selling 256kb RAM for £25 a stick, we used to rip em out of PX PCs 1mb was an arm and a leg, nowadays we're into mega gb sticks if you want them.

I don't think anyone could have predicted the increase in size and drop in cost of memory and storage. I used to get (blag!) lots of software when I worked at a certain PC manufacturer... Had a problem with one (think it was Wordstar?) and called them up. Asked me the RAM size of my PC and I told them ... 16MB. "No, not the disc size, the RAM".
16MB of RAM was pretty unprecedented at the time but at this company, when we joined we went down to the production line (yup, made in the UK!) and built our own PC to take up to the office, so naturally filled it up to the max . 16MB RAM was all it would take and I fitted a 190MB disk drive (was actually a prototype drive as you couldn't buy 5.25" drives that large yet but I got it from a ex-colleague at the peripheral and memory storage company used to work at)

I can also remember a Champion spark plug being 4 for a quid, how much are they now for essentially the same thing.

If cars went the same way as computers, we'd all be driving around in 3000MPH Ferraris that cost around £10 each

 

[nabsim]

Its a 4 core processor Kev with 8 threads

Look up i7-6820HQ

 

[Pudsey Bear]

Thanks Neil, it makes no never mind, it's what I'll have until it dies, but I bought a spare same model and spec a week after buying this one, and I have a my Chromebook that does most of what I need if that dies.

 

[Tezza33]

Its a 4 core processor Kev with 8 threads

Look up i7-6820HQ

Kev's only got eight threads stitching his seams together

 

[trevskoda]

I did not mention it, but a picture tells a thousand words, just as fast as any I7 running any sys from boot to full screen.

 

[trevskoda]

 

[Pudsey Bear]

I'm falling apart Terry.

 

[trevskoda]

Pudsey is casting his fur.

 

[GeoffL]

There are ways to install Windows 11 on a PC that doesn't meet the requirements. I just got a new-to-me Mini Tower that fails the compatibility check but it is running Windows 11 Professional. Have a little search on line and you should find the workaround?
This is a good guide - https://www.howtogeek.com/759925/how-to-install-windows-11-on-an-unsupported-pc/
But .... Make sure you have all your data safe before trying anything!!

From the linked "How To Geek" page, "... Microsoft warns that unsupported PCs may experience bugs. In fact, Microsoft warns that it may eventually stop providing security updates for unsupported PCs running Windows 11." So those who install to unsupported PCs stand a good chance of being in the same boat as those who stayed with Windows 10 after support ends. Refurb Win 11 PCs can be affordable for those who want to 'upgrade' and third party Windows 10 upgrades (e.g. OPatch and Spinnaker) will be available for a fee for those who don't (and who don't wish to install Trevux<vbg>)!

 

[Pudsey Bear]

From the linked "How To Geek" page, "... Microsoft warns that unsupported PCs may experience bugs. In fact, Microsoft warns that it may eventually stop providing security updates for unsupported PCs running Windows 11." So those who install to unsupported PCs stand a good chance of being in the same boat as those who stayed with Windows 10 after support ends. Refurb Win 11 PCs can be affordable for those who want to 'upgrade' and third party Windows 10 upgrades (e.g. OPatch and Spinnaker) will be available for a fee for those who don't (and who don't wish to install Trevux<vbg>)!

I posted the cost of keeping win 10 a few days ago Geoff £427 over three years, I only paid £120 for the PC.

 

[GeoffL]

I posted the cost of keeping win 10 a few days ago Geoff £427 over three years, I only paid £120 for the PC.

I didn't know that MS had disclosed the cost. However, it's miles more expensive that the €25 a year per computer for an OPatch subscription. FWIW, OPatch are still supporting Windows 7 and will probably support Windows 10 for long after MS extended support has ended.

Long Live Windows 10... With 0patch

End of Windows 10 Support Looming? Don't Worry, 0patch Will Keep You Secure For Years To Come! October 2025 will be a bad month for many W...

blog.0patch.com

 

[trevskoda]

 

[Pudsey Bear]

I didn't know that MS had disclosed the cost. However, it's miles more expensive that the €25 a year per computer for an OPatch subscription. FWIW, OPatch are still supporting Windows 7 and will probably support Windows 10 for long after MS extended support has ended.

Long Live Windows 10... With 0patch

End of Windows 10 Support Looming? Don't Worry, 0patch Will Keep You Secure For Years To Come! October 2025 will be a bad month for many W...

blog.0patch.com

I was going of this Geoff.

Microsoft Extends Security Updates for Windows 10 Beyond 2025 (for a Price)

We don't know how much it will cost for consumers yet, but this marks the first time Microsoft will offer extended security updates for individual users, not just corporate clients.

uk.pcmag.com