Win 10 >>> Win 11

I don't know when all these processors went insane!
When I was actually employed working on PC hardware and about to start a new job, the Intel 425DX was only just about to be released (and I was more used to the i8088 and 80286 with the 80386 clocking at 20MHz being the speed demon at the time if you had the budget :) ).
The first company I was a bench engineer with, the top machine was made up of 6 boards 11" wide each and ran at 1MIPS (a 25MHz '386 chip was 7 times faster)
This link shows just how faster computers have got over the last 40 years .... http://scottsoapbox.com/2015/08/15/how-far-weve-come-40-years-of-processing-power/
 
I recall selling 256kb RAM for £25 a stick, we used to rip em out of PX PCs 1mb was an arm and a leg, nowadays we're into mega gb sticks if you want them.

I can also remember a Champion spark plug being 4 for a quid, how much are they now for essentially the same thing.
 
Pudsey Bear said:
I recall selling 256kb RAM for £25 a stick, we used to rip em out of PX PCs 1mb was an arm and a leg, nowadays we're into mega gb sticks if you want them.
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I don't think anyone could have predicted the increase in size and drop in cost of memory and storage. I used to get (blag!) lots of software when I worked at a certain PC manufacturer... Had a problem with one (think it was Wordstar?) and called them up. Asked me the RAM size of my PC and I told them ... 16MB. "No, not the disc size, the RAM".
16MB of RAM was pretty unprecedented at the time but at this company, when we joined we went down to the production line (yup, made in the UK!) and built our own PC to take up to the office, so naturally filled it up to the max :D . 16MB RAM was all it would take and I fitted a 190MB disk drive (was actually a prototype drive as you couldn't buy 5.25" drives that large yet but I got it from a ex-colleague at the peripheral and memory storage company used to work at)

Pudsey Bear said:
I can also remember a Champion spark plug being 4 for a quid, how much are they now for essentially the same thing.
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If cars went the same way as computers, we'd all be driving around in 3000MPH Ferraris that cost around £10 each :)
 
Its a 4 core processor Kev with 8 threads

Look up i7-6820HQ
 
Thanks Neil, it makes no never mind, it's what I'll have until it dies, but I bought a spare same model and spec a week after buying this one, and I have a my Chromebook that does most of what I need if that dies.
 
I did not mention it, but a picture tells a thousand words, just as fast as any I7 running any sys from boot to full screen.

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wildebus said:
There are ways to install Windows 11 on a PC that doesn't meet the requirements. I just got a new-to-me Mini Tower that fails the compatibility check but it is running Windows 11 Professional. Have a little search on line and you should find the workaround?
This is a good guide - https://www.howtogeek.com/759925/how-to-install-windows-11-on-an-unsupported-pc/
But .... Make sure you have all your data safe before trying anything!!
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From the linked "How To Geek" page, "... Microsoft warns that unsupported PCs may experience bugs. In fact, Microsoft warns that it may eventually stop providing security updates for unsupported PCs running Windows 11." So those who install to unsupported PCs stand a good chance of being in the same boat as those who stayed with Windows 10 after support ends. Refurb Win 11 PCs can be affordable for those who want to 'upgrade' and third party Windows 10 upgrades (e.g. OPatch and Spinnaker) will be available for a fee for those who don't (and who don't wish to install Trevux<vbg>)!
 
GeoffL said:
From the linked "How To Geek" page, "... Microsoft warns that unsupported PCs may experience bugs. In fact, Microsoft warns that it may eventually stop providing security updates for unsupported PCs running Windows 11." So those who install to unsupported PCs stand a good chance of being in the same boat as those who stayed with Windows 10 after support ends. Refurb Win 11 PCs can be affordable for those who want to 'upgrade' and third party Windows 10 upgrades (e.g. OPatch and Spinnaker) will be available for a fee for those who don't (and who don't wish to install Trevux<vbg>)!
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I posted the cost of keeping win 10 a few days ago Geoff £427 over three years, I only paid £120 for the PC.
 
Pudsey Bear said:
I posted the cost of keeping win 10 a few days ago Geoff £427 over three years, I only paid £120 for the PC.
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I didn't know that MS had disclosed the cost. However, it's miles more expensive that the €25 a year per computer for an OPatch subscription. FWIW, OPatch are still supporting Windows 7 and will probably support Windows 10 for long after MS extended support has ended.

blog.0patch.com

Long Live Windows 10... With 0patch

End of Windows 10 Support Looming? Don't Worry, 0patch Will Keep You Secure For Years To Come! October 2025 will be a bad month for many W...
blog.0patch.com blog.0patch.com
 
GeoffL said:
I didn't know that MS had disclosed the cost. However, it's miles more expensive that the €25 a year per computer for an OPatch subscription. FWIW, OPatch are still supporting Windows 7 and will probably support Windows 10 for long after MS extended support has ended.

blog.0patch.com

Long Live Windows 10... With 0patch

End of Windows 10 Support Looming? Don't Worry, 0patch Will Keep You Secure For Years To Come! October 2025 will be a bad month for many W...
blog.0patch.com blog.0patch.com
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I was going of this Geoff.

uk.pcmag.com

Microsoft Extends Security Updates for Windows 10 Beyond 2025 (for a Price)

We don't know how much it will cost for consumers yet, but this marks the first time Microsoft will offer extended security updates for individual users, not just corporate clients.
uk.pcmag.com uk.pcmag.com
 
I bit the bullet and bought a used Dell Lattitude 5510 laptop with Win 11 installed, it arrived yesterday but I just checked it works and overall condition which it does and it looks like new and left it til today to mess with it.

So far after playing with it since about 6am I find it awful, I know it will more or less work like Win 10 to actually use it, but I hate the central layout and it isn't yet in my brain how to do what I need, early days of course but it just put up a screen to do updates so I okay'd it bu then go these two messages. I'm wondering if I should return it or not due to those.


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All sorted now, I followed the simple instructions :-

www.pcworld.com

How to make Windows 11 look like Windows 10

Windows 11 gives Microsoft's operating system a bold new look, but you can still make it feel (mostly) familiar. Here's how.
www.pcworld.com www.pcworld.com

And it just feels better to me now, I don't care how it all works behind the scenes but it does seem a bit odd to change the GUI that we're all familiar with.
 
in the 'old days' there used to be a lot of options to personalise the Windows interface with add-ons, changes and themes - and a lot came from Microsoft themselves.
Windows 10 and 11 in that respect has become a bit boring I think and more awkward to personalise. One thing which I noticed has gone from the latest version of Win 11 is being able to select 'Tablet Mode'. That is a shame.
 
I've never really messed with any of the versions, beyond screen res or fonts, it's a platform basically to run other stuff on, I just found the Win 11 unpleasant to use @74 I like what I like & not into change for the sake of it, I'll get used to it once I start using it full time, and I can sell my Win 10 ones to get most of my money back, then buy a spare Win 11.
 
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