Today we have moved back to the beach spot at Torremolinos , close to the shops and bars , we will probably have a couple of day here
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I meant Benalmadena not Toramalenos and we are the only van here , with a sea view alsoIs it still very busy there, we are thinking of going there next week.
Winter sunshine is probably the main reason , we have used a couple of sites down here and can't fault them very clean toilets and showers fresh water and only 10 euro ish a night , as for when you are wilding and free stopover we expect nothing other than a stopover anything else is a bonus , I know it has a litter problem but so has most of Europe . Take a step back and remember you are camping in another country , it must be better than sat at home watching the rain lash against the windowsI have a question, I, we my new wife and I have been motorhoming for about twelve years, this has found us in lowland Scotland, the highlands of Scotland pretty much all of France, Italy Germany and Austria. We have come down to southern Spain for some warm sunshine and Spanish culture. The sun is here in abundance but what a scruffy, dirty, unloved country this is. It’s not motorhome friendly, the sites are few and far between, if they actually exist they are filthy, toilets unusable, clean water and grey disposal dodgy at best. Litter is everywhere you look. Why do people come here? Am I missing something?
Whilst I get the sunshine bit, it is the shabby, dirty unloved bit that you do not get in France or Germany. Even free aires in France are in the most part fabulous. The French are tolerant, welcoming and totally embracing about camping cars. Aires are cared for and generally places I feel actually welcome to stay.
The point is quite simple, I could fly to dozens of destinations and stay in a villa or hotel and be pretty much guaranteed sunshine. For us the beauty of the motor home is the freedom to find the sun and the associated surroundings being clean, tidy, welcoming. In France with a bit of research that is entirely possible. Park4night night has literally thousands of places and so many are above expectations. There is generally very little litter beside the roads and most villages look well kept and not like Vietnamese shanty towns. We have driven from Seville across to east of Cordoba today and seen literally thousands of tonnes of glass and plastic bottles in the roadside verges, fly tipping outside every town and village and dozens of derelict buildings. Tried 3 “Aires” and left all but the last in disgust. Rubbish and human faeces , taps with no water and vandalised toilets. Scenery is stunning, if you like olive trees then it’s absolutely heaven but it’s not motorhome friendly. Take Alcaudete for example, one parking place on a steep slope, no water unless you walk a mile to the police station for a key, blocked grey water emptying and streets so steep and narrow that one parked lorry or van and your stuck.Sorry Bruce h, I don't understand the point you're making. It IS about the weather. You've lost me on the "dirty, shabby, unloved" bit. All I can say, is I'm loving every minute I'm out of the cold and wet of grey UK.
I was warned about parking in a restricted area, the signs were big enough. If I get a fine, my fault. The same thing would happen in France.
I agree that " for the most part", Aires in France are pretty good, although I've driven on from some grotty ones, I think " Fabulous" is over egging it.
Still everyone to their own.
Weekends especially, the locals need to go to the beaches, in good weather... Even more so, because of the recent foul weather, they've had.I must admit it is a different experience than using the aires in France , but it is one of those things were you have just got to think about were you want to go in Spain and if
possible keep away from the popular aires ,
an hour ago we was sat outside a bar having a drink in the warm sunshine , then 5 minutes walk back to our van which is only 50 mtr away from the sea on a large car park with only us on it .I think most people on this site would give their right hand to be here at present
I'm so sorry your holiday/trip has been blighted by your experiences. On neither journey into Spain have I come across anything you have described, with the exception of narrow roads, surly part of the attraction of fortified towns. Maybe I've been fortunate. I don't know what else I could add, that might not be taken as giving offence. Because none is intended. This will be my last comment on this topic.The point is quite simple, I could fly to dozens of destinations and stay in a villa or hotel and be pretty much guaranteed sunshine. For us the beauty of the motor home is the freedom to find the sun and the associated surroundings being clean, tidy, welcoming. In France with a bit of research that is entirely possible. Park4night night has literally thousands of places and so many are above expectations. There is generally very little litter beside the roads and most villages look well kept and not like Vietnamese shanty towns. We have driven from Seville across to east of Cordoba today and seen literally thousands of tonnes of glass and plastic bottles in the roadside verges, fly tipping outside every town and village and dozens of derelict buildings. Tried 3 “Aires” and left all but the last in disgust. Rubbish and human faeces , taps with no water and vandalised toilets. Scenery is stunning, if you like olive trees then it’s absolutely heaven but it’s not motorhome friendly. Take Alcaudete for example, one parking place on a steep slope, no water unless you walk a mile to the police station for a key, blocked grey water emptying and streets so steep and narrow that one parked lorry or van and your stuck.
I have a question, I, we my new wife and I have been motorhoming for about twelve years, this has found us in lowland Scotland, the highlands of Scotland pretty much all of France, Italy Germany and Austria. We have come down to southern Spain for some warm sunshine and Spanish culture. The sun is here in abundance but what a scruffy, dirty, unloved country this is. It’s not motorhome friendly, the sites are few and far between, if they actually exist they are filthy, toilets unusable, clean water and grey disposal dodgy at best. Litter is everywhere you look. Why do people come here? Am I missing something?