Type2 diabetes

Pudsey Bear · Aug 22, 2025

Never liked the stuff Rob, but only one springs to mins, sun pat.

Robmac · Aug 22, 2025

Pudsey Bear said:
Never liked the stuff Rob, but only one springs to mins, sun pat.

I think Sun Pat has added Sugar Kev so I'm looking for a natural one really but one that is palatable.

Pudsey Bear · Aug 22, 2025

ChatGPT does it again Rob

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Tesco “Nuts About Nature” 100% Peanut Butter — ingredients: peanuts (100%). Homepage+1
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Sharon the Cat · Aug 27, 2025

Pudsey Bear said:
If you thought that was abusive, you ain't seen nowt yet, I am the epitome of abuse me mate

I responded in kind Geeky bloke, it added nowt, smaller plates do not replace spuds or bread, got some almond flour of Amazon arriving today, hope it tastes better than that shite Gluton free stuff.

I'm a bit late to this thread and starting from the beginning.
When I was on a keto diet I used to make porridge bread. It's not like the bread we are used to but it kept me happy for years and was really nice toasted with butter and a poached egg. It kept the bread cravings at bay.

Porridge Bread
In a Large Bowl

500ml - natural yoghurt

2 tsp - Bicarbonate of Soda

½ tsp salt

Stir

Add

360g Porridge Oats

Seed Mix* (a good handful)

Stir until well mixed

Add

1 Egg beaten

1 tbsp Skimmed Milk

Stir & pour into silicone loaf tin, smooth the top.

Cook at 180ºC Fan for 50 minutes - Remove from tin & bake for further 10 minutes
When cooled, cut into slices before freezing.

*My seed mix is pumpkin, sunflower & brown linseed.

Pudsey Bear · Aug 27, 2025

Sharon the Cat said:
I'm a bit late to this thread and starting from the beginning.
When I was on a keto diet I used to make porridge bread. It's not like the bread we are used to but it kept me happy for years and was really nice toasted with butter and a poached egg. It kept the bread cravings at bay.

Porridge Bread
In a Large Bowl

500ml - natural yoghurt
2 tsp - Bicarbonate of Soda
½ tsp salt
Stir
Add

360g Porridge Oats
Seed Mix* (a good handful)
Stir until well mixed
Add

1 Egg beaten
1 tbsp Skimmed Milk
Stir & pour into silicone loaf tin, smooth the top.

Cook at 180ºC Fan for 50 minutes - Remove from tin & bake for further 10 minutes
When cooled, cut into slices before freezing.

*My seed mix is pumpkin, sunflower & brown linseed.

How many slices would you get out of that?

Sharon the Cat · Aug 30, 2025

Pudsey Bear said:
How many slices would you get out of that?

I think I used to get about 18 but they are not anywhere near loaf size. Give it a go and see what you think.

Pudsey Bear · Aug 30, 2025

I was going to, but, too many carbs still, about 230-250g, a standard loaf of supermarket white bread isn't much more per slice, and I can buy that, and pop it in the freezer and await my lack of will power, which is doing well so far as I LOVE TOAST, but I have only had 1 slice since going on this reversal.

Pudsey Bear · Sep 3, 2025

I'm having to go easier on the nuts as snacks, after a few weeks, they start to go through you fairly quickly.

oppy · Sep 3, 2025

Results of blood test have just told me that I'm no longer type 2 !!!!!!! I've been taken off the list. It seems that losing 5 stone and changing diet, for me anyway, works

Sharon the Cat · Sep 3, 2025

Pudsey Bear said:
I was going to, but, too many carbs still, about 230-250g, a standard loaf of supermarket white bread isn't much more per slice, and I can buy that, and pop it in the freezer and await my lack of will power, which is doing well so far as I LOVE TOAST, but I have only had 1 slice since going on this reversal.

When I was on a keto diet you only counted net carbs. You subtract fibre from carbs, or something like that.
AI said........

You subtract dietary fiber and sugar alcohols from the total carbohydrate count to get net carbs, which represents the digestible carbohydrates your body can use for energy. This calculation is commonly used for low-carb diets, such as the keto diet, and reflects the carbohydrates that will affect blood sugar.

Pudsey Bear · Sep 4, 2025

Sharon the Cat said:
When I was on a keto diet you only counted net carbs. You subtract fibre from carbs, or something like that.
AI said........

You subtract dietary fiber and sugar alcohols from the total carbohydrate count to get net carbs, which represents the digestible carbohydrates your body can use for energy. This calculation is commonly used for low-carb diets, such as the keto diet, and reflects the carbohydrates that will affect blood sugar.

I don't have enough fingers and toes to be doing that malarky.

Pudsey Bear · Sep 4, 2025

I've also got the list for Cholesterol too now, this is for the Green list, or foods that are okay.

Category	Food	Carbs (g)	Calories (kcal)	Fat (g)	Cholesterol (mg)
Vegetables	Asparagus	2	20	0.1	0
Vegetables	Aubergine	6	25	0.2	0
Vegetables	Avocado	9	160	15	0
Vegetables	Baby corn	8	26	0.4	0
Vegetables	Bean sprouts	6	31	0.2	0
Vegetables	Broad beans	8	88	0.7	0
Vegetables	Broccoli	7	34	0.4	0
Vegetables	Brussels sprouts	9	43	0.3	0
Vegetables	Cabbage	6	25	0.1	0
Vegetables	Cauliflower	5	25	0.3	0
Vegetables	Celeriac	9	42	0.3	0
Vegetables	Celery	3	16	0.2	0
Vegetables	Courgettes	3	17	0.3	0
Vegetables	Cucumber	4	16	0.1	0
Vegetables	Green beans	7	31	0.2	0
Vegetables	Green leaves (salad mix)	2	15	0.1	0
Vegetables	Lettuce	2	15	0.2	0
Vegetables	Mange tout	7	42	0.2	0
Vegetables	Mushrooms	3	22	0.3	0
Vegetables	Olives	6	115	11	0
Vegetables	Onion	9	40	0.1	0
Vegetables	Pak choi	2	13	0.2	0
Vegetables	Pepper (capsicum)	6	31	0.3	0
Vegetables	Radish	2	16	0.1	0
Vegetables	Spinach	3	23	0.4	0
Vegetables	Swede	9	38	0.1	0
Vegetables	Swiss chard	4	19	0.2	0
Vegetables	Tomatoes	4	18	0.2	0
Vegetables	Turnip	4	28	0.1	0
Vegetables	Watercress	2	11	0.1	0
Fruit	Blackberries	10	43	0.5	0
Fruit	Blueberries	14	57	0.3	0
Fruit	Cranberries	12	46	0.1	0
Fruit	Redcurrants	7	56	0.2	0
Fruit	Raspberries	12	52	0.7	0
Fruit	Strawberries	8	32	0.3	0
Fruit	Blackcurrants	7	63	0.4	0
Fruit	Coconut (flesh)	15	354	33	0
Fruit	Grapefruit	10	42	0.1	0
Fruit	Rhubarb	5	21	0.2	0
Protein	Eggs (boiled)	1	155	11	370
Protein	Beef (lean, grilled)	0	217	12	90
Protein	Lamb (lean, roasted)	0	250	16	97
Protein	Pork (lean, grilled)	0	242	14	80
Protein	Chicken breast (roasted)	0	165	3.6	85
Protein	Turkey breast (roasted)	0	135	1.5	70
Protein	Salmon (grilled)	0	208	13	55
Protein	Tuna (tinned in water, drained)	0	116	1	30
Protein	Prawns	1	99	1	195
Protein	Quorn (average)	4	143	6	0
Protein	Soya protein	3	130	5	0
Protein	Tofu	2	76	4	0
Protein	Lentils (boiled)	20	116	0.4	0
Protein	Kidney beans (boiled)	14	127	0.5	0
Protein	Chickpeas (boiled)	27	164	2.6	0
Protein	Black-eyed beans (boiled)	20	140	0.5	0
Protein	Almonds	22	579	50	0
Protein	Brazil nuts	12	659	67	0
Protein	Hazelnuts	17	628	61	0
Protein	Macadamia nuts	14	718	76	0
Protein	Pecans	14	691	72	0
Protein	Walnuts	14	654	65	0
Protein	Pumpkin seeds	11	559	49	0
Protein	Sunflower seeds	20	584	51	0
Protein	Chia seeds	42	486	31	0
Protein	Flaxseeds	29	534	42	0
Dairy	Full-fat milk	5	61	3.3	14
Dairy	Full-fat yoghurt (plain)	4	61	3	13
Dairy	Full-fat cheese (cheddar)	1	402	33	105
Fats	Butter	0	717	81	215
Fats	Cream	3	340	36	110
Fats	Crème fraiche	4	292	30	105
Fats	Sour cream	4	214	20	52
Fats	Olive oil	0	884	100	0
Fats	Coconut oil	0	862	100	0
Drinks	Water	0	0	0	0
Drinks	Soda water	0	0	0	0
Drinks	Tea	0	1	0	0
Drinks	Coffee	0	2	0	0
Other	Almond flour	21	571	50	0
Other	Coconut flour	21	400	12	0
Other	Fermented vegetables (sauerkraut)	2	19	0.1	0
Other	Herbs and spices (average)	20	300	3	0
Other	Homemade mayonnaise	1	680	75	130
Other	Pesto (homemade)	4	450	47	20
Other	Marmite	27	260	0.5	0
Other	Oat fibre	0	200	0	0
Other	Psyllium husk	0	160	0	0
Other	Vital wheat gluten	13	370	1	0
Other	Vanilla essence	12	288	0	0
Other	Konjac noodles	1	10	0	0

Pudsey Bear · Sep 4, 2025

And for the Amber list, eat in moderation.

Category	Food	Carbs (g)	Calories (kcal)	Fat (g)	Cholesterol (mg)
Vegetables	Beetroot	10	43	0.2	0
Vegetables	Butternut squash	12	45	0.1	0
Vegetables	Carrots	10	41	0.2	0
Vegetables	Leeks	14	61	0.3	0
Vegetables	Parsnips	18	75	0.3	0
Vegetables	Peas	14	81	0.4	0
Vegetables	Pickled vegetables	2	12	0.1	0
Vegetables	Sweetcorn	19	86	1.2	0
Fruit	Apples	14	52	0.2	0
Fruit	Cantaloupe melon	8	34	0.2	0
Fruit	Cherries	16	63	0.2	0
Fruit	Figs	19	74	0.3	0
Fruit	Galia melon	8	33	0.2	0
Fruit	Honeydew melon	9	36	0.1	0
Fruit	Kiwifruit	15	61	0.5	0
Fruit	Melon (unspecified)	9	36	0.2	0
Fruit	Nectarine	10	44	0.3	0
Fruit	Orange	12	47	0.1	0
Fruit	Pears	15	57	0.1	0
Fruit	Plums	11	46	0.3	0
Fruit	Watermelon	8	30	0.2	0
Protein	Peanuts	16	567	49	0
Protein	Cashew nuts	30	553	44	0
Protein	Pistachio nuts	28	560	45	0
Protein	Chestnuts	45	245	2	0
Protein	Bacon	1	541	42	110
Protein	Ham	1	145	5	53
Protein	Sausages	2	301	26	74
Protein	Baked beans in tomato sauce	12	78	0.4	0
Dairy	Low fat cheese	7	173	10	30
Dairy	Low fat milk	5	42	1.5	8
Dairy	Low fat yoghurt	6	63	1.5	7
Dairy	Coconut milk (unsweetened)	3	230	24	0
Dairy	Almond milk (unsweetened)	6	43	1.5	0
Dairy	Soya milk (unsweetened)	3	54	1.8	0
Drinks	Diet drinks	0	1	0	0
Drinks	Red wine	3	85	0	0
Drinks	White wine	3	82	0	0
Drinks	Spirits with diet mixers	0	65	0	0
Drinks	Cocoa (unsweetened, powder)	58	228	14	0
Other	Arrowroot	84	357	0.1	0
Other	Dark chocolate (80% cocoa)	46	600	43	8
Other	Gram flour (chickpea flour)	58	387	6.7	0
Other	Stevia (sweetener)	0	0	0	0
Other	Erythritol (sweetener)	0	20	0	0
Other	Xylitol (sweetener)	100	240	0	0

Pudsey Bear · Sep 4, 2025

And if you like wearing wood, the RED list.

Category	Food	Carbs (g)	Calories (kcal)	Fat (g)	Cholesterol (mg)
Vegetables	Chips (fried potatoes)	41	312	15	0
Vegetables	Potato crisps	49	536	34	0
Fruit	Dried fruit (average)	64	290	0.5	0
Fruit	Fruit in syrup (tinned)	20	83	0.1	0
Fruit	Fruit juice (unsweetened)	10	46	0.1	0
Fruit	Grapes	17	69	0.2	0
Fruit	Mango	15	60	0.4	0
Fruit	Pineapple	13	50	0.1	0
Grains	Bread (white, average)	49	265	3.2	0
Grains	Crackers (average)	67	502	22	0
Grains	Flat bread	55	293	5	0
Grains	Noodles (egg)	25	138	2.1	29
Grains	Pasta (dry)	74	371	1.5	0
Grains	Pitta bread	55	275	1	0
Grains	Rice (white, dry)	80	365	0.6	0
Grains	Rice bars	77	385	3	0
Grains	Rice cakes	81	387	3	0
Grains	Ryvita	69	326	1.5	0
Grains	Wheat flour	76	364	1	0
Grains	Wheat wraps	56	313	7.9	0
Cereals	All-bran	45	259	4	0
Cereals	Cornflakes	84	357	0.4	0
Cereals	Granola	64	489	20	0
Cereals	Porridge oats	60	389	7	0
Cereals	Weetabix	69	362	2	0
Protein	Bacon (average fried)	1	541	42	110
Protein	Ham (average)	1	145	5	53
Protein	Sausages (average)	2	301	26	74
Protein	Processed meats (pies etc.)	28	320	18	45
Dairy	Ice cream	23	207	11	44
Dairy	Milk chocolate	56	535	30	23
Dairy	Sweetened yoghurt	15	95	1.5	7
Fats	Margarine (average)	0	717	80	0
Snacks	Biscuits (average)	69	502	24	5
Snacks	Cakes (average)	54	350	15	50
Snacks	Jam	69	278	0.1	0
Snacks	Maple syrup	67	260	0	0
Snacks	Sweets (average)	90	380	0.1	0
Drinks	Beer	3.6	43	0	0
Drinks	Cider	6	50	0	0
Drinks	Cola / fizzy drinks	10.6	42	0	0
Drinks	Cordials (diluted)	4	16	0	0
Drinks	Sports drinks	6	25	0	0
Drinks	Sugary drinks	10.6	42	0	0

Exwindsurfer · Sep 6, 2025

For breakfast Rod i have 40 grams of jumbo oats 100 grams of milk 100 grams of greek yoghurt a teaspoon of honey half a teaspoon of cinniman hand full of blueburries a grated apple make it up the night before but add the apple on the morning 400 cal the lot .

Pudsey Bear · Sep 7, 2025

Not too bad, but the honey is a no go really, pure sugar, I like it on my porridge or Weetabix, but it stays in the supermarket

Exwindsurfer · Sep 7, 2025

No problem for me Kev as I am not a diabetic.Just got a letter for hospital ask me to go in on the 15th and have a whole body bone scan now that starting to worry me.

Pudsey Bear · Sep 7, 2025

I've had that twice, all present and accounted for, and OK after all the hormone and radio therapy bollocks.

Sharon the Cat · Sep 8, 2025

Pudsey Bear said:
I've also got the list for Cholesterol too now, this is for the Green list, or foods that are okay.

Thanks for those. I've saved all 3 lists to my PC, except for the Konjac noodles. I wouldn't know which aisle of B&Q to find them in.

gasgas · Sep 10, 2025

Pauljenny said:
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If on insulin, the advice is :

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Salads, nuts and small portion of fruit for lunch.

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And running shoes, perhaps.

The trouble with eating nuts is that you need teeth.

Type2 diabetes

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